Crime & Punishment

I was actually just wondering to myself how much the OP's bounty is going to go up by him simply making this post in the first place.

Well with this improvement you can decreise the security status of some scammer just putting bounting on him...
Security status should tell you also if the char is thurstible or not, and scams should be included in it I think.
I dont think you get what I am sugesting, my sugestion is that for high security status, you can place an limited ammount of bounty, and with that, he will louse an % of security status proportional with the bounty you put.
There is nice peaple out there that is nothing scamming, no doing anything wrong, but get bounty.
I have a friend that tries to do an job to our coorp hunting bots (not killing, just finding where there where and filming then), and he gets an very high bounty just because he was doing an inofencive and benefic job to every one.
I agree with you that bounty should be an punishiment for scammers, but the way it is, its an tool to help cheaters to continue doing what they are doing for example.

WInter Borne and Sarafina Kurvora are probally the same account doing this stupid commentary.
Dont worry about the bounty I will get with this "Especific Alt", I am very aware of the bounty system go get prejudice buy it.
Fell free to put how much bounty you want in this char, it will be destroyed after a while and you will never get this money back.

What are you talking about.

The payout does not come from the person the bounty is on. Learn how things work before you complain.

The payout does not come from the wallet of the person it is on.

So your argument is that the bounty system is irrelevant as other players says, ok, then it should be removed from the game as it makes no sense.

You need to make your point, or you think the bounty will prejudice you or you dont think, ether way the system is broken.

I will reply again because you looks to be an very stupid and naive person, so I will reply the same way you do :

Eve is an game for cheaters, and have an bounty system to protecty any type of honest players to do anyghing, the same way in any corrupt country. An country that probally you live, with no education and no inteligency.

You have no idea how the bounty system works yet you keep blabbering about it with authority.

Pretty much the textbook definition of idiocy.

it's not an improvement at all. It allows you to decrease the security status of ANYONE YOU WANT.

For someone concerned enough with griefing to be worried about this, you sure have found a convenient "suggestion" to grief others with the click of a button.

And? You are aware that the game is meant to be a dystopia... right? That's what makes it so interesting.

Moving on...

As bad as it is to say... those newbies that leave because someone put a bounty on them for "no reason" would not have lasted long anyways.
Remember, this is a game where people will ransom and shoot you for giggles. Getting a bounty is the least of a person's problems.


Why should anyone be allowed to pay down their own bounty?


1a) Why do you care if your bounty is sky high? It's not your money. I've had corpmates fly around with 1 - 2 billion ISK bounties on their head... and they never once talked about moving to 0.0 or quitting the game.
Players that do say they are quitting the game over a high bounty... again... there are worse things other players can do to them.

2a) Again... why should a player be able to pay their bounty down? It has nothing to do with the numbers... what is the reasoning behind allowing players to remove their own bounties? If someone dislikes another person so much that they put a multi-billion ISK bounty on their head... why should the person be able to get rid of it?


That's not how bounties are calculated. It is...

((aggregated market value of the ship and everything in it) * 20%) / (number of people who participated in the kill) = amount of bounty paid out per person.

When the posted bounty amount is lower than the amount that should be paid... the whole bounty is given.



As for your statement that it should be possible to kill yourself with an alt or trusted friend to both get rid of a bounty and collect it... that WAS how the old system used to be. And it was one of the biggest flaws with it too because it made bounties utterly meaningless (i.e. putting a bounty on someone was equivalent to literally giving them ISK).
It should not be possible to get rid of your own bounty except through great cost/loss. Which is the entire idea behind the current system.

>>>And? You are aware that the game is meant to be a dystopia... right? That's what makes it so interesting.

Dystopia or not, cheaters should not be allowed in any game.

>>>Moving on...
>>>As bad as it is to say... those newbies that leave because someone put a bounty on them for "no reason" would not have >>>lasted long anyways.
>>>Remember, this is a game where people will ransom and shoot you for giggles. Getting a bounty is the least of a >>>person's problems.

I do agree with that, the problem here is the way the bounty is paied its broken, I didnt see any argument even here about that, just stupid chat. And also, I think, as an sugestion, that peaple with good security status should have less bounty, but this is an sugestion and I would like to see what you guys think about.

>>>Why should anyone be allowed to pay down their own bounty?

You dont understood what I said, I said that once you have one high bounty, you will have it forever, dosent mather if you louse an titan every day, as I said, the bounty pays only 20% of 20% of the value destroyed.
It means that if you have 1M bounty, it will stick forever in your head. If you stop to think about and peaple realise as they are already ( again, I have proves about that with statistics ) , peaple will stop to put bounty and it will formally become an joke.


>>>1a) Why do you care if your bounty is sky high? It's not your money. I've had corpmates fly around with 1 - 2 billion >>>ISK bounties on their head... and they never once talked about moving to 0.0 or quitting the game.
>>>Player that do say they are quitting the game over a high bounty... again... there are worse things other players can do to >>>them.

Today the bounty system is a joke, peaple that know how it works will not atack you even if you have 20M bounty, but there is some that dosent know about that and may atack you. Also, the bounty system can change with out warning, as it is an "secret formula" of CCP, and not the 20% as they normally says.

>>>2a) Again... why should a player be able to pay their bounty down? It has nothing to do with the numbers... what is the >>>reasoning behind allowing players to remove their own bounties?

An bounty was made for someone to claim it, an system of bounty that is impossible to remove or claim is a joke. Again, I am not talking of the char trying to take his bounty off. Probally if I show the numbers it will be more clear, but I will only do it if there is peaple interested in it. The ammount of bounty currently active is 10000x then the ammount payed, and this number will grow because the calculation of this bounty system is an joke.

>>>That's not how bounties are calculated. It is...
>>>((value of the ship) * 20%) / (number of people who participated in the kill) = amount of bounty paid out per person.
>>>When the posted bounty amount is lower than the amount that should be paid... the whole bounty is given.

THIS IS THE WAY THEY SAY IT IS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT REALLY IS NOW, THIS IS THE PROBLEM !!!
Just look for any kill and see how much of the bounty was payed.

>>>As for your statement that it should be possible to kill yourself with an alt or trusted friend to both get rid of a bounty and >>>collect it... that WAS how the old system used to be. And it was one of the biggest flaws with it too because it made >>>bounties utterly meaningless (i.e. putting a bounty on someone was equivalent to literally giving them ISK).
>>>It should not be possible to get rid of your own bounty except through great cost/loss. Which is the entire idea behind it.

I agree with you in this last argument. It should not be possible to get rid of your own bounty except through loss. This is why the old systems fail.