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New blog: Can you help us find the True Stories of The First Decade?

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#21 - 2013-04-03 22:54:51 UTC
Daenna Chrysi wrote:
oh joy more goodies to the goons.


lol James315 will get a decade of free subs P
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#22 - 2013-04-04 01:31:35 UTC
Epic player content mining.

I have wanted something like this for long time.

Now I have no Idea what story to tell, where to start or end?!

I think I will opt out of it, and just share a link to something related I am working on..

Real-Eve - My bio Interview version

John McCreedy
Eve Defence Force
#23 - 2013-04-04 09:48:43 UTC
Competitions are all nice and that but how about giving those of us who have actually been subscribing to Eve for ten years a little something as a thank you?

13 years and counting. Eve Defence Force is recruiting.

Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#24 - 2013-04-04 10:07:44 UTC
John McCreedy wrote:
Competitions are all nice and that but how about giving those of us who have actually been subscribing to Eve for ten years a little something as a thank you?


I think it would be a potential viable idea to consider decade legacy accounts. Making them free. I am sure most would just invest in a second or more account or be more willing to buy other things from CCP.

OFC I am biased, but I think that stats would agree.

Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-04-04 13:13:08 UTC
Mildly annoyed that the story board appears to exclude fan-fiction. Even when it pertains to something like how you started your character....

"The story has to be true. It has to have happened in EVE." - Submit Story page, Plot Summary "hint text"

I understand why they want 'legit stories'. But seriously if we made a text file out of all the battles and crap players do it would sound horrible.

You need to put that "Hollywood Spin" on stories or people aren't going to give a **** about them.

Do you want to read about how GoonSwarm fleet blobbed some other alliance?

-or

Quote:
GoonSwarm amassed outside the [insert system] Jump Bridge. And primed for jump. Intel had suggested the [insert enemy alliance] had [a ship-by-ship break down of the blob]. But intel can be misleading.

The titans' JDs spun up as Operation Start approached. "Drive Lighning" arced across their hauls as the drives reached full charge.

The operation is go!

...have you ever been catapulted from a dead stop several light years?

The GS were known for bringing overwhelming numbers to a fight. But even this was a sight. [insert ship-by-ship break down of GS blob]. Streaked into system. Their turrets already deploying and TCs locking on.


By adding some finesse you make the same situation sound interesting.

So how interesting is it to listen to a play-by-play of how I made this character slowly trained up. Got better ships. Got blown up some. Was present during some of the Expansions' 'Event' peaks (ie Incursions, but not "THE Incursion" [think the recent Dust Event with the titan])

-sorry for picking you Goons, tired and your name was the first I thought of :P
Pon Teyuen
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-04-04 14:03:03 UTC
Dyner: I didn't see anything in the rules that prevented one from giving it a creative writing gloss. The devblog specifically mentions [paraphrase] "stories of real EVE players set 20,000 years in the future" -- which to me implies there is expected to take the events and put them in the in world context versus, "so, I sat down with a Mountain Dew, logged in and...". I suppose nothing would stop you from doing that either, if you had a good spin on it.

I think they simply mean the core it is based on has to be based on an actual event ingame, meta game whatever and not just a purely speculative/invented scenario
Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
#27 - 2013-04-04 14:07:53 UTC
EveTV, hmm rings a bell, like StevieSG, or maybe even Oveur.
Isn't Nathan Richardsson doing another SyFy TV series Bear

As a fan from Stargate SG1 it amazed me how it got along so well where basically the american military saved the universe.
Maybe we can expect to see Icelandic team(s) instead of 'merican teams, with socio-political nerds (insert CCP names) to offset their overwhelming coolness, saving the New Eden Universe

Information is Ammunition,

War does not tolerate Ambiguities.

May you live in an interesting Empyrean age !

http://eve-radio.com/

Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2013-04-04 14:18:24 UTC
Pon Teyuen wrote:
Dyner: I didn't see anything in the rules that prevented one from giving it a creative writing gloss. The devblog specifically mentions [paraphrase] "stories of real EVE players set 20,000 years in the future" -- which to me implies there is expected to take the events and put them in the in world context versus, "so, I sat down with a Mountain Dew, logged in and...". I suppose nothing would stop you from doing that either, if you had a good spin on it.

I think they simply mean the core it is based on has to be based on an actual event ingame, meta game whatever and not just a purely speculative/invented scenario


Oh, I didn't get that impression either (regarding the Mountain Dew thing). What I mean is.

-without logging in-

About 2 years ago I jumped into a 0.3 system and was insta-locked and podded. So...how do I go about tell that. Do I say I was just cruising around for rats to kill and had some stupid bad-luck. Or do I spice it up and say I was running a mission op (not to be confused with the missions Agents give).

I was there (lul). What happened. Really did happen. But I spiced up the reason for being there....(I was just there to shoot rats).

Like I had originally typed up, but deleted after reading the "Hint Text", and going "hmm, don't want to seem like an idiot [CTRL A, DELETE]". I basically sat down, listened to: " Sascha Dikiciyan & Cris Velasco - A Hero's Legacy ". And wrote up a "little" background....and by little I mean 7 pages, or 10k-ish characters.

It glosses over my first flight in a Rifter. My death in Krirald (at the hands of my first Player Pirate podding). Leaves out the Death in Gonditsa (the 0.3 system mentioned above). "Hollywood Spins" my extremely minor involvement with Incursions (literally I did one). Suggests that my "for funsy" corp re-structured itself in the wake of the Sansha to be a military corporation.

But.
1. It spans something like five years (2006 to 2011)
2. Over-hypes my involvement in events
3. Covers up some pretty stupid moments (l2 look at numbe rof pods in one hour!)
4. IS A SUMMARY
5. EXCEEDS THE SUMMARY TEXT FIELD'S CHARACTER LIMIT.
Pon Teyuen
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-04-04 14:43:21 UTC
"Exceeds the Text field's limit" is a good point. I looked and found it strange that they didn't specify any kind of maximum length -- which is writing contest 101. So could I write something the length of Empyrean Age? Blink

On the other side, I'm hoping their not expecting a 2-paragraph forum post entry that one just typed into the text field.
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-04-04 14:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyner
Pon Teyuen wrote:
"Exceeds the Text field's limit" is a good point. I looked and found it strange that they didn't specify any kind of maximum length -- which is writing contest 101. So could I write something the length of Empyrean Age? Blink

On the other side, I'm hoping their not expecting a 2-paragraph forum post entry that one just typed into the text field.


Plot Summary - 5000 characters left

I don't see anywhere on the "Submit Story" page where you would say attach a document.

Which is kind of stupid. I mean how are you suppose to properly vote on a story when all you have are the cliff-notes. What?


PS: Chribby shouldn't be allowed to post a story...he's to love-able not to win First :P
BEPOHNKA
Ner Vod Fleet Systems
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2013-04-04 15:01:03 UTC
Will this place you on top for the most likes sir? Shocked
Pon Teyuen
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-04-04 16:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Pon Teyuen
Dyner wrote:
Plot Summary - 5000 characters left

I don't see anywhere on the "Submit Story" page where you would say attach a document.

Which is kind of stupid. I mean how are you suppose to properly vote on a story when all you have are the cliff-notes. What?


Yeah, it is a bit short. It seems strange that they'd even be thinking of developing a property around something the length of an AAR. In fact, isn't that text limit actually shorter than just the standard comment text limits? I'm looking at the Remaining Characters count and I think it started at 6,000.

But if I decide to do it (have to figure if I have an interesting enough story to tell in an interesting enough way in a mere 5k characters. Not a lot of room for "color") -- the text box entry doesn't actually bother me. As long as the word count is known, you can write and edit for that space and cut 'n paste.
Vayn Baxtor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-04-04 23:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Vayn Baxtor
Very interesting contest :).

However, I was so psyched about it that I was about to submit stories when I re-read and realized the emphasize on REAL eve online stories.

Unfortunately, despite being a 2004 player, there is nothing that I ever experienced that was astonishing or mind=blown compared to stuff I've seen and heard from others.


Oh well, I guess its back to my dark little corner with fake-fanfictions :).
But I like the site and all around it. Very impressive.

I tend to miss out on EVE-O site features, hence this question:

Speaking of eve fanfictions, do we only have the forums as a place of submitting or is there a "EVE Fanfiction Site" like the "TRUE story" one we have for this contest?

If there is no such site for fanfiction - REALLY, I'd love to see one for the fanfictions. I like the voting and setup of it.


edit:
well... there was this time that felt like first sex when I tackled this hard-to-catch/arrogant Curse-cruiser in a highsec wardec back when I was getting back into an active role in the game (I was in hiatus/semi active between 2005 and 2007'ish). He was a real killer for my highsec corp of miners/carebears , and our mini call to arms required me to hop in the only frigate that was in my hangar at system -> A bloody tackling Tristan (long before its tiericide).
Guess he underestimated me for whatever reason, I tackled, we blew him up - and we're cheering like girls.
And thus I was a miner/industrialist no longer and EVE had herself a new tackler-blood.

Another time invovled me probing a group of expensive faction-BS pilots of the same wardeccing corp. They were afk and back then, nobody was afraid of being probed in a safespot (let alone the different and complicated probing mechanics).
... So I was in this Minmatar Probe frigate and happened to have learned the mindbogging probing stuff.........
//edit2 we didn'T get the faction-BS, butother BS stuff, and they surely did have a shock that day.

Anyhow, nothing specially really. I'm sure there are better stories out there, starting with those in Jita. :-D Pirate

Using tablet, typoes are common and I'm not going to fix them all.

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#34 - 2013-04-05 01:22:50 UTC
Oh my god.

An EVE-based TV series would be amazing.


Whether it deals with boardroom deals, the life of some smalltime smugglers or pirates (cough, Firefly, cough), or battles like Asakai, it would have so much potential.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2013-04-05 02:46:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyner
Pon Teyuen wrote:
Dyner wrote:
Plot Summary - 5000 characters left

I don't see anywhere on the "Submit Story" page where you would say attach a document.

Which is kind of stupid. I mean how are you suppose to properly vote on a story when all you have are the cliff-notes. What?


Yeah, it is a bit short. It seems strange that they'd even be thinking of developing a property around something the length of an AAR. In fact, isn't that text limit actually shorter than just the standard comment text limits? I'm looking at the Remaining Characters count and I think it started at 6,000.

But if I decide to do it (have to figure if I have an interesting enough story to tell in an interesting enough way in a mere 5k characters. Not a lot of room for "color") -- the text box entry doesn't actually bother me. As long as the word count is known, you can write and edit for that space and cut 'n paste.


It's:
-127 for the story title
-5k for the plot summary (I typed a '0' and it went to 4999),
-2k for author notes
-60 for support points
-500 for explain said points

As for Forum Posts, yes, it's 6k.

Even looked in Internet Explorer to see if there was a "Browse and Submit"...sometimes Chrome won't display those. But nope.

...whole thing doesn't make since "Plot Summary". Infers that at some point I should be able to upload the full story.

.........CCP. Are you out of ideas and bumming them off the players. And that's why you just want "the back of the book"-synopsis. So you can fill in the details. What?



Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Oh my god.

An EVE-based TV series would be amazing.


Whether it deals with boardroom deals, the life of some smalltime smugglers or pirates (cough, Firefly, cough), or battles like Asakai, it would have so much potential.



WebTV, using their CGI Software. But in-house WebTV... I don't want a bunch of censorship.
CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#36 - 2013-04-05 13:33:41 UTC
Dyner wrote:
Pon Teyuen wrote:
"Exceeds the Text field's limit" is a good point. I looked and found it strange that they didn't specify any kind of maximum length -- which is writing contest 101. So could I write something the length of Empyrean Age? Blink

On the other side, I'm hoping their not expecting a 2-paragraph forum post entry that one just typed into the text field.


Plot Summary - 5000 characters left

I don't see anywhere on the "Submit Story" page where you would say attach a document.

Which is kind of stupid. I mean how are you suppose to properly vote on a story when all you have are the cliff-notes. What?


PS: Chribby shouldn't be allowed to post a story...he's to love-able not to win First :P

Thanks for the feedback. The 5000 character limit was put put there as an attempt to create "artistic constraints", with the goal to focus the storytelling so that it would be more of a treatment or synopsis, rather than a fully fleshed out story. That would make it easier for readers to trawl through all the stories once the voting process starts.

A number of people have expressed their concern that this is way to short. We'd love to hear opinions, pro and cons for this. Are there people that like keeping it short, so that it´s concise, or do most of you want more space to better illustrate your stories?
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-04-05 13:53:59 UTC
Why not keep it as it is. And let us attach a Document file of say no bigger than 1MB.

If people like the Plot Summary they can read the entire story.

Unless you could setup another field and allow 'Bold', 'Italic', and 'Underline'...bonus would be alignment (left, center, right). But then you'd have to set the character limit to something around 50k (my 7page short story is 10k, for reference).
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
#38 - 2013-04-13 23:24:24 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
A number of people have expressed their concern that this is way to short. We'd love to hear opinions, pro and cons for this. Are there people that like keeping it short, so that it´s concise, or do most of you want more space to better illustrate your stories?

Do you expect me to complress ten years (or even two years) of EVE history into 5000 characters?
The "Epic history of lie" is 15kb of bare text, and only covers about two years of EVE History.

Two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. -- Harlan Ellison

CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2013-04-18 19:10:53 UTC
Tonto Auri wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
A number of people have expressed their concern that this is way to short. We'd love to hear opinions, pro and cons for this. Are there people that like keeping it short, so that it´s concise, or do most of you want more space to better illustrate your stories?

Do you expect me to complress ten years (or even two years) of EVE history into 5000 characters?
The "Epic history of lie" is 15kb of bare text, and only covers about two years of EVE History.

You can provide an "elevator pitch" summary of the plot and a link to a more verbose version on the story, if the 5000 character limit is not enough to describe the story you want to submit.
Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#40 - 2013-04-18 23:35:08 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Tonto Auri wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
A number of people have expressed their concern that this is way to short. We'd love to hear opinions, pro and cons for this. Are there people that like keeping it short, so that it´s concise, or do most of you want more space to better illustrate your stories?

Do you expect me to complress ten years (or even two years) of EVE history into 5000 characters?
The "Epic history of lie" is 15kb of bare text, and only covers about two years of EVE History.

You can provide an "elevator pitch" summary of the plot and a link to a more verbose version on the story, if the 5000 character limit is not enough to describe the story you want to submit.


You have to admit Torfi many of us can hardly fit these things into an elevator pitch version.

Here is a draft version of some interview with some of those 10 year olds..

http://real-eve.net/2013/04/15/10-years-10-questions-i-ii/

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