Crime & Punishment

Before I say anything, lets see some numbers :

For new players :
1) They can receave any ammount of bounty from anyone, because he tries to ask something into the chat, because he says something stupid etc, he can get 500M bounty even if he was not intend to hurt anyone, this new player probally will left the game, as I saw it happens inumerous times.
2) He will unable to pay the bounty EVER, even if the bounty is relativally small, (before argy about that, see the numbers) unless he use something ilegal like am cheat program that is avaliable and peaple are using. And then again, this player probally will prefer to left the game.

For old players :
1) As any old players know, the current bounty system is a joke, so you just need to ignore it unless the bounty in your head is very very big. In that case, you have two choices, or left the game, or move to 0.0. Again, even if you are a nice player that never get in any troble and just did good, this can happen with you. Probally this player will be so mad with the game, that will spend all his money putting bounty in whathever just peaple fell the same as he fell.
2) Even moving to 0.0 will not pay his bounty never, because the bounty calculations today make impossible to pay it even if you just pilot titans and louse one every day.

For bounty hunters :
1) The ammount payed per kill is ridiculous, you will never get profit killing peaple with bounty, even if it is very very high. This is why there is no bounty hunter out there, and never will be with this system. The top bounty hunters you see in TV is a joke really, no of then do it for living, they just are in an alliance fighting with another alliance and get the bounty for pure looky becayse someone that he kills have some very large ammount of bounty.

Some datas :

I tried to find the calculations for the bounty payment and what I get from CCP was :

The paid bounty is based on "Pend Insurance Estimate" on kill reports, which is valued by a confidential formula in the system and is usually less than the "ISK lost". As not meant to be public, we are not allowed to reveal more information regarding how the "ISK destroyed" is calculated.

Well, with the CCP support I tried to calculate an Caracal lost with no itens and ensurance, value aproximated of 10M the result bounty payment was something like 20% of 20% of that : 300k.

Value destroyed of the ship = 10M (no itens)
Value 1 = (20/100)*10M - (1.5/100)*10M = 1.85M
Value of the bounty = (20/100)*1.85M - (1.5/100)*1.85M = 342k

I think its time to review this broken system, since in my opinion, an good bounty system is wellcome and necessary, follow some sugestions :

1) Bounty can be placed only in low security status chars, or, limited value of bounty for high security, or, more expensible for secure status, like :
1.1) Sugestion 1 : Impossible to put bounty in high secure status chars, only low, like before.
1.2) Sugestion 2 : For securety status>0, max value bounty that can be post is something like 1M.
1.3) Sugestion 3 : For securety status<0, bounty have an multiplyer like, for SecStatus=1, if you want to put of bounty 1M, you need to pay 10M, for SecStatus=2, if you want to put 2M, you need to pay 20M, and so on.
1.4) No restriction for low security status.

2) Bounty Payment should be something like everybody thought it was at the last release, 20% of the bounty restricted by the lost of the kill, including the pod, there is nothing wrong in it in my opinion, I think it will encorage bounty hunters well enought. But I will repeat, it should be 20% of the bounty not the ship, restricted buy the loos less some %, exemple : an guy have 50M of bounty, he have an Caracal that value 13M, if someone kills him, this guy will get 10M of bounty, and the owner will continue with 40M of bounty.

Some of you will argy that the bounty guy can get rid of the ammount of bounty that way, but I dont see any problem with that, since he will need another account to do it, and the fundamental of this game mechanics allow peaple to have multiple accounts, its good for CCP, and should be good for the players as well.

That way they will need :
1) Wait until some bounty hunter kill him until he pay his bounty.
2) Use another char as bounty hunter for him ( again, I cant see anything wrong here )
3) He can ask some friend to do an bounty hunter for him ( no problem as well, since he needs someone of thurst and its what this game is about ).

Also, some numers shows that at the first days of this bounty systems, a lot of peaple use it, and after one week, peaple stops to use it and they are not using anymore, its sad.

Apretiate comments and sugestions,
Thanks,
Paladin

tl;dr

Bounties have virtually no effect on the person they're placed on, and a working bounty system is impossible. Stop stressing.

Also, this.

While it's nice to get a bit of a bonus in the wallet when killing someone, that's really all the bounty system is.

Firstly... you cannot pay off a bounty.
Second... Stop making sweeping statements that bounties force people to leave.
Third... I got a 1 Billion isk bounty on me.. nothing you stated is true.

Go away.. now.

I approve of the bounty system.

By pulsing a burst ecm at the end of a gank, gankers can get bonus ISK by wh*ring on their own CONCORDOKKEN, paid for by angry carebears.

I think your wrong, because I noted a corp operating in Kador which was mining had a very large bounty put on them and was war decced by a player who posts in C&P to farm that bounty.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=224581&find=unread, click on the link "some words of encouragement" and there you go!!!!

As for the OP I think the system may need adjustment but I think it largely works!

I can confirm that by hunting people with bouties I got many many sweet isks and tears therefore the system works.

I see bounties as additional PPK from random people. Also, the higher I get mine, the happier I am.

Although I do hate that if I bounty a random person, and then suddenly he gets a 1 billion isk bounty, I forever am to receive mails when he dies. Unanticipated consequence of randomly bountying people. I get like 12 notifications a day of this nature.

It is not "your" money. The bounty on your head is put there by somebody else and usually collected by a 3rd party. while the bounty you put on someone is lost because basically you want to give a 3rd party an incentive to kill that individual in a preferably expensive ship.

Um... If you have a bounty... Join RvB this week. We are having a new FC week. Try fcing, and you can get free ships. Get killed in those free ships and watch your bounty disappear, plus you get to try PvP. Soon, you may find you like it.

Seriously, you are making way, way, way too much out of a bounty system that has no impact on game play.

But honestly, if a bounty on your head is enough to make you question if eve is the game for you, it's not the game for you. Go elsewhere. I hear wizard 101 is very family friendly and safe. Eve is not.