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BURN JITA STARTS TOMORROW! (pics inside)
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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#61 - 2013-04-18 14:45:48 UTC
yay for watching more Goons kill other goons in newbships for an entire weekend!

Last time it was actually safer for a non-goon than it was on a normal day, since the only ppl the goons were really targetting was other goons...in newbships...just to get the number of ship kills up to make it look scary.

Bring it on, and i'll still move stuff in and out of Jita, and be just as safe as normal.

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#62 - 2013-04-18 15:00:45 UTC
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Akinesis
Black Rose Inc.
Black Rose.
#63 - 2013-04-18 15:04:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Akinesis
If it makes news for people outiside of EvE to read, I see it only as a good thing really. It's advertisement at the end of the day, regardless of whether you wear a tinfoil hat on Burn Jita's true meaning. The Goons will always get people's backs up, but that annoyance extends a lot further than Goonswarm. They just have huge numbers and dedicated management to organise things like this. Meh

Additional: plus it gives people something to moan and rant about :)
Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2013-04-18 15:14:45 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


Rotfl. Smartarse

I suppose your right. No-one is smart enough to attack them. There will be no BURN NULL

Cry

Because Far-que... That's why.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#65 - 2013-04-18 15:18:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Akinesis wrote:
It's advertisement at the end of the day,...


isn't there some turn of phrase along the lines of "no press is bad press"?

I'd honestly be more impressed if the carebears in Halaima would (FINALLY) band together, and stand up against James315 et. al. (and obviously, after subjecting carebears to the same dec-shedding ***** [carebears] do for a while, stick around and fight) Would make for good stories all around (not to mention more people "getting" eve)... or at least I think anyway.

I'm unfortunately nowhere near as good with the rhetoric as others, so I doubt I'd be anywhere approaching "successful" with this myself... though, if I had a proper propaganda director, maybe it could work.

I'm gonna go roll an alt and see what's what tonight. Twisted


edit -- self censor so ISD/GMs don't get upset

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Kleesama
Tradewars2002
#66 - 2013-04-18 15:22:58 UTC
Panhead4411 wrote:
yay for watching more Goons kill other goons in newbships for an entire weekend!

Last time it was actually safer for a non-goon than it was on a normal day, since the only ppl the goons were really targetting was other goons...in newbships...just to get the number of ship kills up to make it look scary.

Bring it on, and i'll still move stuff in and out of Jita, and be just as safe as normal.



In a freighter, right?
Dave Stark
#67 - 2013-04-18 15:25:38 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
I'd honestly be more impressed if the carebears in Halaima would (FINALLY) band together, and stand up against James315 et. al. (and obviously, after subjecting carebears to the same dec-shedding ***** [carebears] do for a while, stick around and fight) Would make for good stories all around (not to mention more people "getting" eve)... or at least I think anyway.


they don't have enough of an impact upon game play for any one to give two ***** about them.
Akinesis
Black Rose Inc.
Black Rose.
#68 - 2013-04-18 15:26:08 UTC
Yup, no press is bad press. At the very least, events like this get EvE noticed to some extent or another. If it happens in HS, people make noise. I think I now understand what Goons mean when they say 'We do this, because we love you!'. Eve gets noticed, so people are more inclined to try it out. Some of them will stay, some will leave.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-04-18 16:25:59 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null?

This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.
Ted McManfist
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#70 - 2013-04-18 17:22:53 UTC
Panhead4411 wrote:
yay for watching more Goons kill other goons in newbships for an entire weekend!

Last time it was actually safer for a non-goon than it was on a normal day, since the only ppl the goons were really targetting was other goons...in newbships...just to get the number of ship kills up to make it look scary.


Rrrrrrrriiiiight. That's exactly what we did last year.

May be time to up your medication, you might be delusional.
Ginger Barbarella
#71 - 2013-04-18 18:21:01 UTC
Tank Talbot wrote:
Understand, I mean no offense to anyone and I support the idea of emergent game play based on what players do. That’s the point of this question and post in a way from a new player perspective. I am honestly curious. Why doesn’t the Caldari State and Concord fight back the coming goon invasion of Jita? I mean I thought EVE was supposed to FEEL REAL and here is one of the most powerful factions in the game, the Caldari State, EVE’s greatest capitalist nation, playing dead when their largest trade hub comes under attack from what looks to be a 0.0 barbarian horde intent on a terrorist action? lol... Lol


Because, Tank, like everyone outside these Forums and the Goonies, the Caldari State and CONCORD couldn't care less.

But the Forums and Goonies need their herp-derp to feel like they are relevant.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2013-04-18 19:49:23 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null?

This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.



A hypothetical highsec army could have arranged this. If they started dropping SBUs and reinforcing structures prior to any planned event in Jita, they could have timed it so we would have had to leave some people in nullsec to clean up the mess.
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-04-19 13:03:52 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Tank Talbot wrote:
Understand, I mean no offense to anyone and I support the idea of emergent game play based on what players do. That’s the point of this question and post in a way from a new player perspective. I am honestly curious. Why doesn’t the Caldari State and Concord fight back the coming goon invasion of Jita? I mean I thought EVE was supposed to FEEL REAL and here is one of the most powerful factions in the game, the Caldari State, EVE’s greatest capitalist nation, playing dead when their largest trade hub comes under attack from what looks to be a 0.0 barbarian horde intent on a terrorist action? lol... Lol


Because, Tank, like everyone outside these Forums and the Goonies, the Caldari State and CONCORD couldn't care less.

But the Forums and Goonies need their herp-derp to feel like they are relevant.



Last year you were all unsure and nervous. This year your're all just bitter. I LOVE IT.

TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages
Bloody Wench
#74 - 2013-04-19 13:08:10 UTC
Will there be fofofo?

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-04-19 13:26:09 UTC
Goons done killed mahpaaaa, raped mahsistuhh, dendey skinned and donewore oldDawg as a hat!

Deys some heartless fools, ain't nobody got time for that.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#76 - 2013-04-19 14:07:49 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null?

This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.

The theory falls down when you realize "highsec" doesn't have a supercapital force capable of denting the hundreds of millions of hitpoints needed to even get that far, and any sub-cap fleet will be cleared up by pretty much anyone.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-04-19 14:13:58 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


I'm not 100% sure of the mecanic but could some planning (yeah I know high sec plannign stuff in null...) enable timers to expire during burn jita forcing some people to go back to null?

This si of course based on the bad assumption that EVERYONE will be in high sec shooting people in Jita. I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.

The theory falls down when you realize "highsec" doesn't have a supercapital force capable of denting the hundreds of millions of hitpoints needed to even get that far, and any sub-cap fleet will be cleared up by pretty much anyone.


Of course. I was mostly checking if I had the sov mecanic straight in my head but what about all the missioners/incursion people high dps ship? It's nowhere near capital/supercap dps but high sec has number on it's side if they actually pull off the miracle of working together no?

And of course, if those numbers are grinding tower one way or another, there is someone who would notice anyway...
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#78 - 2013-04-19 16:15:28 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Of course. I was mostly checking if I had the sov mecanic straight in my head but what about all the missioners/incursion people high dps ship? It's nowhere near capital/supercap dps but high sec has number on it's side if they actually pull off the miracle of working together no?

And of course, if those numbers are grinding tower one way or another, there is someone who would notice anyway...

Well ok, outside of the laughable concept of some armada of faction battleships sailing off into 0.0 you might want to read this: http://themittani.com/features/discussion-primer-sov-warfare

It's a good intro to it.

For what it's worth a single moros will out-damage 20 faction battleships.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#79 - 2013-04-19 16:41:27 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


I mean if I was in Test leadership and bored for some trolling I'd either:

A. Go to Jita en mass just to mess with the Goons.

or

B. Invade Goon space forcing them to retract the event to fight in large space battles in null.

But seeing I'm not in Test leadership nor do I think they have the guts to take on the Goons even when their proverbial pants are down, Test will just do whatever test has been doing for the past several months instead and let the Goons do as they please.

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Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2013-04-19 19:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Da Dom
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Da Dom wrote:
So...

While they're all high sec, who will be left defending their sov space?

Twisted


Structure timers.

Go grind a few billion structure hitpoints and see how they work.


I mean if I was in Test leadership and bored for some trolling I'd either:

A. Go to Jita en mass just to mess with the Goons.

or

B. Invade Goon space forcing them to retract the event to fight in large space battles in null.

But seeing I'm not in Test leadership nor do I think they have the guts to take on the Goons even when their proverbial pants are down, Test will just do whatever test has been doing for the past several months instead and let the Goons do as they please.


Yeah, but with the shakeup in the Null economy caused by the resource distribution change planned for odyssey, anything is possible...

Because Far-que... That's why.