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Dev Blog: CSM 8 Elections--CCP on the impact of the Council

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Frying Doom
#81 - 2013-04-18 09:24:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Roime wrote:
The concepts presented in some of the anti-CSM posts in here are absolutely hilarious:

Null and wormhole players don't represent the playerbase


I hope like hell Null and WH CSM members don't represent, the whole playerbase, CCP has spent enough time on Hi-sec and making parts of EvE easier for New players.

I for one hope a Null/WH CSM will fight for their areas, as they have been left to rot for years, especially Null.

Oh and the CSMs job is to be our voice, not just be a CSM tool, otherwise why the hell would we listen to them if something like Incarna ever happened again, or for that matter at all.

CCP has enough mouth pieces, The players need one, that is why we have the CSM.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#82 - 2013-04-18 09:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Well, nullseccers, wormholers, FW and the few remaining pirate corps in lowsec, Unistas, RvB along with wardeccing/griefing hisec corporations represent 100% of the content-creating playerbase. These groups cover all the instigators and public-facing player activity, and they have been and will be well represented by the CSM.

I don't agree about the focus having been on hisec bears at all. UI improvements, logical streamlining of stuff like module names and now skill progression, ship balancing and Crimewatch improvements not only make the game more accessible to new players, but also improve the experience for older players. Small things like aggression mechanic tweaks and the Safety mode didn't make the game safer or easier just for new players, but for anyone looking for fights in lowsec, and even increased kills in hisec.

I feel that continuous development of NPE is vital, and there should be even more efforts on that. EVE should be easier to learn for new players, and sometimes making it safer for them helps in keeping them in game. This should be done in a way that doesn't make hisec more lucrative and safer for old players.

The non-represented player demographic in CSM, the casual content consumer of hisec, have never been a focus of CCP as they (despite their misconceptions) represent a minor and comparably volatile portion of their paying customers. In development cost-revenue analysis these players are the most expensive to satisfy and the lowest retention rates.

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Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2013-04-18 10:02:45 UTC
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
... luckily it played out in such a way that the rest of the CSM could make the best of it.
I read this as "luckily we were able to ride Two Step's coattails."
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#84 - 2013-04-18 10:08:31 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
... luckily it played out in such a way that the rest of the CSM could make the best of it.
I read this as "luckily we were able to ride Two Step's coattails."


You read it wrong. Stop bad mouthing Hans and Alex! They are two of the hardest working guys on the council and their feedback has been wonderful.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Frying Doom
#85 - 2013-04-18 11:52:12 UTC
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#86 - 2013-04-18 12:10:57 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.



Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Frying Doom
#87 - 2013-04-18 12:14:21 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.



Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#88 - 2013-04-18 12:26:53 UTC
All I have to say is... YAWN. Roll
CCP Veritas
C C P
C C P Alliance
#89 - 2013-04-18 12:52:40 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.

Votes are recorded anonymously, so no, there's no editing once submitted.

CCP Veritas - Technical Director - EVE Online
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#90 - 2013-04-18 12:53:46 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.



Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.


Sorry mate, no taksie-backsies.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#91 - 2013-04-18 12:55:09 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.

Votes are recorded anonymously, so no, there's no editing once submitted.


Well what good is a voting system that doesn't facilitate grandstanding and drama-queening???!! X

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Frying Doom
#92 - 2013-04-18 12:57:22 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.



Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.


Sorry mate, no taksie-backsies.

Well I suppose it does prevent a mass rout, should events occur that change peoples minds about voting.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#93 - 2013-04-18 13:15:09 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
CCP Veritas wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.

Votes are recorded anonymously, so no, there's no editing once submitted.


Well what good is a voting system that doesn't facilitate grandstanding and drama-queening???!! X

Or just quietly altering preferences.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2013-04-18 13:16:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.


Sorry mate, no taksie-backsies.

and on the eve of the polls closing candidate malcanis revealed to the world his terrible secret
Frying Doom
#95 - 2013-04-18 13:25:11 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.


Sorry mate, no taksie-backsies.

and on the eve of the polls closing candidate malcanis revealed to the world his terrible secret

Less than 11 hours left, with no ablity to pull your votes, Candidates can come out now and say anything, they steal candy from babies, like to wear make up, they hate the players, they were on CSM 7, any horrible deed at all, and there is bugger all we can do.


Except give them hell for 12 months.

and remember Malcanis's Second law: no taksie-backsies. Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#96 - 2013-04-18 13:34:12 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.


Sorry mate, no taksie-backsies.

and on the eve of the polls closing candidate malcanis revealed to the world his terrible secret

Less than 11 hours left, with no ablity to pull your votes, Candidates can come out now and say anything, they steal candy from babies, like to wear make up, they hate the players, they were on CSM 7, any horrible deed at all, and there is bugger all we can do.


Except give them hell for 12 months.

and remember Malcanis's Second law: no taksie-backsies. Lol



Pirate

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#97 - 2013-04-18 13:53:06 UTC
I'm wondering why you lump wearing makeup in with abusing infants.

http://www.wormholes.info
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#98 - 2013-04-18 14:12:57 UTC
Nathan Jameson wrote:
I'm wondering why you lump wearing makeup in with abusing infants.


You don't put your face on before playing Kick The Baby?




tsk no standards no pride

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#99 - 2013-04-18 16:52:33 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
So no way to remove your vote or change it in the system either.



Choices have consequences. Welcome to EVE!

Yes but choices can be to long lived, when new information has come to light.


Sorry mate, no taksie-backsies.


Except in the pre elections that is LolBlink
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#100 - 2013-04-18 17:03:08 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Nathan Jameson wrote:
I'm wondering why you lump wearing makeup in with abusing infants.


You don't put your face on before playing Kick The Baby?




tsk no standards no pride


Don't kick the baby
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'