EVE General Discussion

Your 'impressions' were wrong and whoever told you that Battleships and up are the only thing that can tank gate-guns was either very wrong or simply lying to you. Dare I say, that likewise your 'impression' about the function of gate-guns in low sec is wrong.



Let me clarify something here for you, because you seem to like to use a lot of generalisations and sweeping statements; I understand that they seem to help you justify your stance and fuel your feelings regarding this matter:

You were attacked by a Heavy Assault Ship, Heavy Interdictor and a Force Recon Ship; an investment in excess of 600mil ISK. Although they are Cruiser-class ships, they are not really Cruisers in the terms you seem to imagine. The pirates deployed ~600mil worth of ships to catch a T1 Industrial ship worth less than 1% of that amount. I would call this a serious commitment to the gate-camp, wouldn't you?

Unlike the pirates, you did not commit to ensuring that you were transporting your goods safely through a less secure area of space. Instead of learning to use one of the many functions this game has to offer to ensure that your Bestower makes it safely to its destination, whether through low or 0.0 space, you chose to make an EVE:O topic to change a game mechanic. I hope that you understand why you received such a dismissive response from the community as a result.

There is nothing wrong with gate-guns. They are a deterrent to aggression not a preventative measure.

You lowsec guys moan about how people never leave highsec, whilst simultaneously defending your position on mercilessly owning them in gatecamps. Don't you realise this is the exact reason why lowsec is a wasteland? You are yourselves the cause of the problem. No wonder people have learned not to leave highsec, when you can just sit on a gate while they single file through to their doom. The risks of lowsec don't match the rewards. Not even slightly.

The whole point is to reinvigorate lowsec, make it an area in which highsec players are willing to risk traveling there to benifit increased reward for increased risk. Buffing gateguns gives them the possibility of getting a foot in the door of lowsec. This in turn, leads to more targets for pirates. The ONLY difference being, you won't be sitting there hitting your easy-mode button, but rather having to scan and hunt them down in system. You add a buff to lowsec resources, and now we're talking!

Of course, you all have a massive issue with this. I mean, why would you want to make EvE better if it effects your niche, right? Better to be selfish and maintain your L33T camps and moan about how highsec players are such carebears to not want to come and make pretty fireworks while you eat popcorn.

1) it's not a wasteland for anyone looking for PVP, outside Amarr lowsec deserts fights are guaranteed, even TRUE SOLO pvp
2) it's a paradise for explorers as finding empty areas is easy
3) nobody except ******** hisec bears moves valuable stuff unscouted into known gate camp systems (99% of hi>low gates are uncamped)



hisec players willing to risk does not compute



If you'd really enjoy risk, taking care of yourself and reap the riches of lowsec, you'd live there, and not in boring hisec.

Aw, don't leave. We like shooting you.

Quit with the narcissism and hallucinations of grandeur. You don't represent any 'community.' You represent a handful of griefers who infest low-sec ratholes and who want to preserve game mechanics that benefit their asinine playstyle. Get over yourself.

I personally dont grief on gates in lowsec, but im kinda meh no the whole issue of the sentry guns. It might feel lame when you get caught, but a lot of people risk averse in EVE.
Recently we met a Navy Armageddon with 6 warp core stabs smartbombing on a gate. This was a flashy 'pirate' from a well known FW corp. He worked around the issue presented while trying not to lose his ship (we made him lose it anyway after some preperation). You should learn the mechanics of gate camping and if you insist on not flying a blockade runner of a ship without a large buffer check this video out, it will save your ass sometime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVi1CWcbSUE

If the gate is spammed with drones/cans and probes hope you are fast enough.

So op jumped unscouted into a lowsec system, in a bestower, full of pi stuff. and is mad when there's a gatecamp?

also, There were meant to be some changes, but the changes they had were stupidly overpowered and didnt make sense, gate guns arent there to fight your battles for you, it's lowsec.

If I could click like more, I would.

Imagine if this was implemented, holy f*ck we'd see a massive drop in the "I did something utterly ******** and someone blew my expensive ship up, please make the bad people go away CCP" threads that populate this forum.

Just earlier this week the community was overwhelmingly supportive of a newbie who came in politely asking - in essence - whether he could do better in the game. Because he took responsibility for his own actions instead of blaming someone or something else for his mistakes.

So yes, take your own advice and get over yourself.

Your attitude is appalling. You did something utterly moronic and lost a ship, you then come to the forums to DEMAND that the game is changed to compensate for your own stupidity… but then you get all “get over yourself” when people point out the truth.

Oh, and no I don’t live in lowsec. I live in sovnull before you start accusing me of being one of your “greifers”

The only person round here who needs to get over themselves, is you sonny Jim.