EVE General Discussion

You, ser, are lying.

No, I did not try forcing anyone to do anything. I just incited a friendly conversation with someone that was a mild irritation.
Hopefully, she won't be in Dodixie anymore, and I can be bored in relative peace until I have a machine and a connection that allows me to undock without hideous game-breaking lag.

While i can sort of understand what you are trying to do, you have to understand that this is something that has been said so many times over and over again that one more wont make any real difference (as an example look at a certain recruitment scam from one of the more known alliances).

When it comes down to it new players (and plenty of old ones im sure) gets scammed because they dont take the time to do any form of research and are blissfully ignorant of how harsh EVE can be.

In a way (in my own opinion) its a good thing that young players gets to experience getting scammed once since it will teach them to do proper research, encourage them to find creative ways around these scams (look at DMC's post as an example), and finally teaches them that you can not trust anyone in EVE (especially if they want to give you free stuff for no apparent reason at all ).

But honestly...this is just another thread describing the same scam as countless other threads, and while this thread has been growing, his wallet has most likely grown as well.

Same, as long as you follow the rules, and are polite instead of trying to shame them in general forums for being too slow on the transactions.

I mean if you dont have patience you will get burned, these PLAYERS ARE GIVING AWAY THEIR ISK TO RANDOM PEOPLE out of the goodness of the hearts and wallets.

I am glad they burned you to teach you a lesson, which is always to be patient and wait for the doublers to properly add up the isk being doubled and adjusts the wallets accordingly

You caught me. Time to go back to lowsec piracy....

Now that you put it that way, that makes a lot more sense. But, I tried playing, sober, one time, and EVE just put me to sleep... half the fun of this game, for me, is to put myself in stupid messes, for stupid reasons, and see how fast I can dig out.

I mean, I remember this one noob that went up to Njalli and slapped his Myrmidon in the face, with a failfit Mega, just for laughs..... and subsequently got his brain pulled out through his *******, while Njalli didn't even break a sweat. Oh, wait.... that was me.

Someone took grumpy pills, this evening.

What makes you think I'm angry? I'm enjoying myself, here, and you're being a jerk. WTF, man?

No, they're totally legit..... don't you see all the folks rushing to defend them? :p

...like this thread

shill.

Edit: in other MMO's it is possible for a single player to rid a single server of 'ISK'/'gold' doublers. I do not think the scale or mechanics of EVE allow this. There are two steps. Often only one is needed.

1- you bombard their means of trade with zero value transactions. It makes it impossible for them to respond to their marks.
2- while doing this you actively troll them out into public, beyond their bot ads. They get quite angry and ruin their own market, but usually that is not even necessary.

I know this works because I have done it multiple times in multiple games. It simply becomes unprofitable for them to operate in that area or on that server. This actually works for many kinds of third party profiteers. Eventually you can create a local cultural norm about it where the potential marks now have a persistent hostility toward such activities and take pride in trolling them out. The ISK doubler is essentially 'lazy' and will move to someplace easier to operate. Because EVE is geared to be able to handle transactions and is so vast this would not likely work here, nor be worth the trouble. It is necessary to create a consistently hostile business environment for them. Though it does not take the kind of 16 hour obsession reported here, you do have to be vigilant for a short period of time and willing to log an alt. Educating the 'mark' alone is insufficient. However if other people relaize they can punish the doubler in some way it very rapidly becomes good fun to do so. Actually paying the doubler anything is the opposite direction you want to go. If you cannot destroy their profitability through insane transaction costs there is little you can do. 'Education' such as the OP imagines not only does not work, but creates the opportunity for shilling by the doublers themselves, as we see above.

That fact that every person doesn't know this... is just scary.