EVE General Discussion

http://www.dailywritingtips.com/affect-vs-effect/

Just some useful reading for you, Darth.

...read it yourself, he used "affected" correctly.

I'll direct you to the exact section of your link which applies here:

"Affect : A verb meaning “to produce an effect, to influence”: “I knew that my opinion would affect her choice, so I deliberately withheld it.”"

A fair, and potentially fun and rewarding way to rebalance power projection.

Oh sorry, screw everywhere else forever we need to make sure that THOSE PEOPLE get nothing!

While the idea is interesting I, for a start, dont think that CCP would do it as it would cost them probably few thousand subs alltogehter when all the crazy guys running 50+ accounts ice mining drop their unneeded accounts and switch to ore with the number of accounts they can reliably control on it.

Should they rock the boat just for the sake of rocking it nothing major would happen. Ice products would be more expensive, Something in the order of ~ 1 - 2 k isk per unit is possibility, but longer term it would probably stabilize closer to 1k than 2k.

Good number of empire towers would probably shut down, T2 materials would get a bit more expensive, but nothing overly dramatic, other than some people ragequitting. The increased fuel prices would further benefit the major coalitions who dont care at all about fuel price while would decrease, probably, slightly mobility of smaller entities to whose fuel costs can be matter of importance when making decisions about moving.

"OK, now it's only a small percentage, bitches"

- CCP

can i inb4 comment about high sec players bothering to vote to stop all 14 seats going to nullsec candidates?

And be forced to stare at the screen but don't need(or couldn't) do anything? (Assume you don't use macro script)

who looks at the screen while mining? i certainly don't.

On the other hand, under the broader category of "resource redistribution", CCP could just relocate most (all ?) of the High Sec ice into Low Sec systems -- maybe pyroxeres, too -- and give Low Sec a reason to exist beyond low end moons, piracy and FW.

Can't say it would be popular, probably a "hard sell", but it would generate some fighting for a strategic resource.

People are overstating the effects. (Perhaps cynically).

More mining is done in nullsec than high sec. This is demonstrated by the high price of high sec ores relative to low and null sec ore. Scordite pays more than Arkonor partly because of bottlenecks but mostly because there are a ton of people in nullsec clearing grav sites and a lower proportion than anticipated of people in high sec mining Scordite.

People who are currently clearing grav sites will switch to ice once the isk/hour of ice products equalises with minerals. Or even a bit before considering the relative ease of mining ice as opposed to clearing grav sites.

We would also see a change in freight patterns if this change happened. Currently ice products are mostly mined in empire and shipped to nullsec. If this change happened it would make some economic sense to shift production from high to null and use locally produced ice and PI to make fuel blocks. As ice can't be compressed it would be uneconomic to export ice to jita for resale then import it back again in the form of fuel blocks. This would encourage the use of local ice so we might see more Amarr towers and capitals in Delve as Amarr ice would be a lot cheaper there.

A side effect of the change would be that the value of Arkonor and the other null ores would rise as less people mine it so we may see a much needed restoration of balance to the mineral basket. Similarly vast fleets of risk averse high sec miners would switch from ice mining to mineral mining. (And who knows, some dedicated ice miners might follow their quarry out to null!)

Would be a good change I think.