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Public Service Announcement about "Isk Doublers"

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Moth Eisig
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-04-17 21:53:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Moth Eisig
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
If someone would be so kind as to sticky this. I shelled out a good amount of ISK to get this conversation to happen.

Noobs, don't fall for dumb crap. And here is why, in plain sight. I've been in this game long enough to know a scam, and decided to do something about one of them, so you all don't get roped into this kind of thing.
Flying since 2007... so sometimes, this is how bored I get with EVE

Read up and educate yourselves.

http://jarodgaramonde.blogspot.com/


I too am a scammer. Please feel free to prove it any time you are bored and want to help new players. In fact, I would invite anyone else who is interested in protected noobs to do so as well.
Halvan Zan
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-04-17 21:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Halvan Zan
The scammer sounded absolutely devastated that she took your 1.2b ISK and had to suffer your wrath and the ultimate humiliation of being BLOGGED about. My lord, man, ease up on the poor lass.

PS - next time you are 'plain bored' and want to blow 1.2 billion ISK in an effort to help newbs, buy us some ships, or some skill books or something. Anything else, rather than give your money to someone who is obviously (obvious to anyone with half a brain) scamming.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-04-17 22:04:48 UTC
Halvan Zan wrote:
The scammer sounded absolutely devastated that she took your 1.2b ISK and had to suffer your wrath and the ultimate humiliation of being BLOGGED about. My lord, man, ease up on the poor lass.

PS - next time you are 'plain bored' and want to blow 1.2 billion ISK in an effort to help newbs, buy us some ships, or some skill books or something. Anything else, rather than give your money to someone who is obviously (obvious to anyone with half a brain) scamming.


Next time I'm bored and want to blow 1.2 bil, find me in lowsec, because I'll be raring to lose a Proteus.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#44 - 2013-04-17 22:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Xen Solarus
Came expecting a story about a victory over a scammer.

Left feeling defeated, and slightly depressed. So, you basicly fell for the oldest scam in the book, whilst simultaneously knowing that you were going to fail for it, and paradoxically finished by concluding that you had somehow won? That you managed to get them to "shut up"?

Am i missing something here?

To quote you: "Maybe I just wanted to prove to someone that I was smarter than a) they assume I am, and b) they think they themselves are."

Well, you failed.

Also, if you send me 2 billion isk, i'll triple it!!!

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Rocketfeller
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-04-17 22:56:13 UTC
So did you prove that ISK doubling is a scam? Or that ISK doubling is a scam that really works?

I rather doubt that you deterred your spammer. But I'm confident you have encouraged a whole bunch of new scammers.

Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-04-17 23:02:22 UTC
Rocketfeller wrote:
So did you prove that ISK doubling is a scam? Or that ISK doubling is a scam that really works?

I rather doubt that you deterred your spammer. But I'm confident you have encouraged a whole bunch of new scammers.




I proved that I can spend 1.2 bil to troll the entire forum for a few hours... and add some interest to the game when I can't PvP....

That answer your question? Thanks. :p

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-04-17 23:04:17 UTC
If it helps at all, I promise my next blog post will be about lowsec piracy..... the only question is what kind of ship do I want to lose.

Who votes for a Hyperion?

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
IrJosy
Club 1621
#48 - 2013-04-17 23:39:19 UTC
They can't all be scams. I gave a guy 1b isk and he doubled it once. I think it was in jita. Cool
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-04-17 23:50:52 UTC
Though well intentioned I feel the process is perhaps a bit misguided and fruitless.

1- you have reinforced the scam
2- such a scam runs on the greed of the particular player, you are not effecting that, nor can you reasonably hope to
3- players who actually get sucked in to 2x scams are not likely to be reading your post, if they do they will delete or distort 'facts' that fall outside of the model of things that have them fall for the scam in the first place.

The noob missions should have an ISK doubler with limited negative impact and a station agent that then tells you how stupid you were.

Private sig. Do not read.

ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-04-17 23:51:55 UTC
The people that fall for this aren't going to read this anyway.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#51 - 2013-04-18 00:10:38 UTC
Wait...that's a scam? Uh-oh....um....I mean...uh...I knew that!...yeah...



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Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-04-18 01:07:30 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
The people that fall for this aren't going to read this anyway.


That's kind of a bummer. And I realize this now that I'm less drunk.

I think I want my next two blog entries to be titled "How to fail, hilariously, at PvP", and "How to win, magnificently at PvP".... one dedicated fail-fit, and one successful T2 1v1 duel..... that might be awesome.

I still won't be as cool as Kil2.... erm, I mean CCP awesomesauce, or whatever his new name is...

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-04-18 01:09:07 UTC
IrJosy wrote:
They can't all be scams. I gave a guy 1b isk and he doubled it once. I think it was in jita. Cool


That was me. And I didn't double your isk. You gave me a bil in trade for my anal virginity. It was a dark time in my life.... I was married back then.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-04-18 01:11:31 UTC
Shao Huang wrote:
Though well intentioned I feel the process is perhaps a bit misguided and fruitless.

1- you have reinforced the scam
2- such a scam runs on the greed of the particular player, you are not effecting that, nor can you reasonably hope to
3- players who actually get sucked in to 2x scams are not likely to be reading your post, if they do they will delete or distort 'facts' that fall outside of the model of things that have them fall for the scam in the first place.

The noob missions should have an ISK doubler with limited negative impact and a station agent that then tells you how stupid you were.


If the scammer isn't pissed at me for posting this, then why'd she have a 2 month old alt put a bounty on me?

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-04-18 01:51:55 UTC
As my Bio clearly explains, ISK doublers are bloody liars.

They will give you TRIPLE the money you give them.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

The Pooptani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-04-18 02:11:52 UTC
I don't know what's wrong with you guys every time I give one of these fine businessmen some isk I get double back
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2013-04-18 02:44:39 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
About 4 1/2 yrs ago, back when I was a young capsuleer, I took a chance on one of those 'Double Your ISK' things to the tune of 15 mill. That was pretty much my wallet amount. After I sent the ISK, the scammer did a private convo with me asking me to do 100 mill, Of course he didn't know I didn't have any more ISK. I simply told him to first double the 15 mill and then I'll gladly do the 100 mill. The scammer told me he was in convo with others and would do it shortly, then he left the private convo.

All attempts at trying to re-establish communications was futile. I then placed the scammer on watch list and set him to red standing. I then stayed logged into the game for long lengths of time, at least 16 hrs a day, always looking for him. When he logged back into the game, I used a locator agent and quickly warped over to the system he was in and spammed Local chat linking his name with the words = Liar, Thief, Scammer. Eventually he left the system and after I did a mad dash jumping into neighboring systems, I found him again and started doing the same thing again, spamming Local with my message about the scammer. He soon logged off.

However, I remained vigilant and whenever he came online, I was soon in the same system posting my message in Local. This went on for about a week, then one day he sent me a mail message saying I had won, deposited 15 mill in my wallet and told me to leave him alone.

Sure, I didn't get the 'Double Your ISK' but at least I got my initial amount back. Granted it took me some time to do that but in the end vengeance was mine. I've heard it said before that vengeance is best when served cold but I'm here to tell you that it's way better when served fresh, hot off the grill.



DMC
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#58 - 2013-04-18 02:58:57 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
About 4 1/2 yrs ago, back when I was a young capsuleer, I took a chance on one of those 'Double Your ISK' things to the tune of 15 mill. That was pretty much my wallet amount. After I sent the ISK, the scammer did a private convo with me asking me to do 100 mill, Of course he didn't know I didn't have any more ISK. I simply told him to first double the 15 mill and then I'll gladly do the 100 mill. The scammer told me he was in convo with others and would do it shortly, then he left the private convo.

All attempts at trying to re-establish communications was futile. I then placed the scammer on watch list and set him to red standing. I then stayed logged into the game for long lengths of time, at least 16 hrs a day, always looking for him. When he logged back into the game, I used a locator agent and quickly warped over to the system he was in and spammed Local chat linking his name with the words = Liar, Thief, Scammer. Eventually he left the system and after I did a mad dash jumping into neighboring systems, I found him again and started doing the same thing again, spamming Local with my message about the scammer. He soon logged off.

However, I remained vigilant and whenever he came online, I was soon in the same system posting my message in Local. This went on for about a week, then one day he sent me a mail message saying I had won, deposited 15 mill in my wallet and told me to leave him alone.

Sure, I didn't get the 'Double Your ISK' but at least I got my initial amount back. Granted it took me some time to do that but in the end vengeance was mine. I've heard it said before that vengeance is best when served cold but I'm here to tell you that it's way better when served fresh, hot off the grill.



DMC


You spent a week logged into Eve for 16 hours a day, following someone around for 15 mil.

You're either crazy or daft, maybe a little of both. Roll

User of 'Bumblefck's Luscious & Luminous Mustachio Wax'

Haulie Berry
#59 - 2013-04-18 03:27:43 UTC
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:


You spent a week logged into Eve for 16 hours a day, following someone around for 15 mil.

You're either crazy or daft, maybe a little of both. Roll



He's the Eve equivalent of Overly Attached Girlfriend.
Boozer Hoover
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-04-18 03:56:57 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Karl Hobb wrote:
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
Only a few actually oblige to send it back doubled.

You need to read their bio for the rules.



That's my point. Their "rules" don't matter. They don't pay out, and noobs need to know this.

yesterday i actually played doubling and "Erotica 1" actually made me richer by 150 million Shocked

so nope, the picture is more complex than you seeing



This is absurd, I recently couldn't afford plexing my account and I seen Erotica 1, and she seemed pretty legit from what the forums say.

So I asked her nicely explained the situation and sent her 250 mil isk, she sent back 500 mil so I could plex my account.

OP just tried forcing her into what she would have already done freely (double the isk) so to teach him a lesson he got burnt, oh well play by the rules next time and it will go in your favour.

The majority of the people who do these things aren't scammers they are just extremely space rich and like to help other people.