Ships & Modules

Hey guys. I am a relatively new player. About 3 months old. Anyways I spent freaking 40 days to get into this mackinaw. That's almost half the time I've even been around. And what do I get? 7,000 bigger ore hold. THAT'S IT. It says that the two strip miners can actually do the work of three, which it should, BUT IT DOESN'T. My yield is exactly the same as if I was using a retriever. It's literally exactly the same ship except with a bigger ore hold. How does that make it worth it? Instead of selling my load for about 4 mil it was 5.3 mil. Big whoop. I mean, it took a little bit longer to fill too.

I am extremely disappointed and confused. It seems like there should be a bigger yield bonus associated with it. The degree to which it's better is so miniscule. So what was that 40 days and 200 mil for? The retriever only takes 4 days, and like I dunno, 30 mil or so? Maybe 40 including fittings? Something is wrong. If I gotta do like 10 times the amount of training time and freaking 7 or whatever times the cost, then why only a tiny improvement?

What are you going on about? This is a legitimate concern...

My only legitimate concern here is the fact that the evelopedia hasn't been updated with the mining barge changes, so I'd have to actually log in to the game to dig out the numbers to prove you wrong.

In case you haven't noticed, EVE is a game where people will pay billions for a few scant percentile.

You're solo mining in a fleet mining ship

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I did the math for you. 14%, in this case. Mack mines 14% more, plus has the larger ore hold. Which, yeah, makes it a pretty good buy in the world of marginal returns.

Yield. Max yield on a Retriever is 1170/min. Max yield on a Mackinaw is 1339/min. (1339-1170)/1170 = .1444 = ~14%.

Hint: the third low makes a difference.

Ok. Thanks guys. I am beginning to see how it works. The max yield is increased 14% ok. That is pretty significant. So really I just need to up my skills more to the point where the mack is more worth it. Do you guys believe in mining drones?

You do. Check the role bonuses of the ship.


Understand something...

Better equipment in EVE comes at exponential cost for [more or less] linear improvements. In order words... Tech 2 ships provide an edge in a certain specialty with a few extras. They are not, and have never been, all around better ships compared to their Tech 1 variants. Even combat ships [more or less] follow this rule.

This is what allows newer players to "keep up" in a sense. Having more skills and more money than the competition does not equate to "IWIN." This is how there is balance in EVE.

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I personally do not think so. Mining drones may give you a little extra ore yield here or there... but combat drones can easily take care of that NPC chipping away at your shields and can also attack any gankers attacking you (note: even with max skills drones may not kill a ganker... but it will ensure you get proof that he/she is dead).

The retreiver also has strip miner bonuses which mean that two strip miners do the work of three which is why you're noticing little difference immediately between the two ships.
The strength of the Exhumers come in the form of small boosts and the increased slots and base stats (HP, resists...etc). It is these boosts which allow the Mackinaw to fit a significantly larger tank for example, while still allowing more resources to be dedicated to yield increases.

So you trained for something you did not research and we are supposed to feel.......what?