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[news] Nugoeihuvi visits Caldari Prime; reports significant progress

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2013-04-15 19:33:37 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/nugoeihuvi-visits-caldari-prime-reports-significant-progress/

"Representatives from Nugoeihuvi Corporation, on behalf of the CEP, visited Caldari Prime over the past week to compile a report on Ishukone Corporation's progress on restoring the planet. According to their initial reports, Ishukone is 'showing stellar progress in securing Caldari interests on Caldari Prime.'"

And, as always, Heth attacks that which isn't part of his world view.

For what it's worth, Ishukone has my congratulations and appreciation for surpassing expectations.

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Xao Chu-Li
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-04-15 19:39:23 UTC
It is pleasing to see progress in the way of restoration and stabilization.

May the future prove to be filled with more wisdom, clarity and prosperity for your people as well as mine than the past.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2013-04-15 19:43:39 UTC
This is excellent news, setting aside the Executor's doubts and assuming that the report is accurate - which I have no reason to doubt it is.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Hadrian Tivianne
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-04-15 19:49:35 UTC
I sometimes wonder if Heth has some sort of anti-Gallente document template that he can just take bits and pieces from to formulate his public responses to various situations. Every response he makes to something just seems so strangely similar.

Ishukone seems to be doing a good job, and the statement of "being ahead of schedule" seems to bode well for the future.
Saana Nupuunen
Aseyakone
#5 - 2013-04-15 19:58:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Saana Nupuunen
The best thing anyone can do is to fairly offer all the friendly help they can to the Caldari Providence Directorate investigators. And I do not mean that Ishukone would always clean of fault - it's a megacorp, after all - but that I don't believe that even the Provists are that dense that they do not see that it is possible also to build, not only to raze.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#6 - 2013-04-15 20:04:25 UTC
Indeed. This bodes quite well for the future. The faith of Gallente citizens in Ishukone administration is likewise a positive note.

I hope for a joint CEP- and Federation-commissioned audit of the Gallente zones, to ensure that aid distribution and infrastructure reconstruction are on track. My worry is that the Gallente zones, having not had a Gallente administrative presence for some years, will be taking longer to initiate repairs. This isn't to denigrate Gallente administration, but rather to acknowledge the realities of setting up a new civil government in a time of crisis.

If necessary, I imagine additional aid and technical assistance could be rendered to those districts, if needed.

Nupuunen-haani; Heth may select Provists who are more loyal to Heth than to the State. If so, it may be that they would see the necessary distribution of aid to affected Gallente districts as 'funneling supplies to the enemy,' or similar ill-conceived interpretations of events. We would do best to aid those investigators as well as we can, of course, but should be prepared for another of Heth's investigations.

Fortunately, considering how little has come of Heth's 'investigation' of Ishukone following the first aid distribution, we can only hope that these too are empty words.

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Toluijin Chagangan
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-04-15 20:15:15 UTC
Just one thing bothers me, I sincerely hope i'm wrong.

In Heth's speech he mentioned the following :

“I will be launching my own investigation of the planet with my own loyal men and women acting completely independently of any Ishukone oversight."

While most have assumed that this means he will be sending CPD members, he has not specifically mentioned this, and as recent events have shown, the CPD are not the only group of individuals that are loyal to Heth.
When his 'delegation' arrives, I hope that the Ishukone Watch and Mordu's forces are prepared for them to be Dragonaur, not CPD.


Seven Tribes.
One Matari People.
Raven Solaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-04-15 20:17:47 UTC
"Following in the traitorous tradition of Otro Gariushi"

I wonder if Tibus realises that accusing one of the most beloved Caldari leaders of being traitorous is a horrible idea, especially when he's already losing support.
BloodBird
The Crucible.
#9 - 2013-04-15 21:35:13 UTC
Raven Solaris wrote:
"Following in the traitorous tradition of Otro Gariushi"

I wonder if Tibus realises that accusing one of the most beloved Caldari leaders of being traitorous is a horrible idea, especially when he's already losing support.


I am amazed he has not done so before. Gariushi was the State-side driving-force behind the Trade-agreement with the Federation that was to take place in Malkalen, so it's impressive that he has managed to avoid denouncing him as a 'traitor' for even considering anything that might benefit the Union, regardless of who else benefits, even if it is the State itself.

It was inevitable that he would do so, the only surprise was that it happened later, rather than sooner.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#10 - 2013-04-16 00:19:57 UTC
I am pleased to hear the cleanup and support is proceeding well.

So Heth has now implied NOH's people can't remain unbiased. By my count, that is the third mega Heth has spoken against, and he's also spoken ill of one of our greatest leaders as well; is he trying to destroy his crumbling power base?
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#11 - 2013-04-16 01:41:38 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
It would seem that a fragile peace has flowered into hope.

Expectations however are dangerous things.

As when betrayed they often turn to fear or worse...

While I am no longer in a position to speak with any authority on the matter.

It seems to me that those of good will on both sides might mitigate the potential damage of an aberrational event by committing themselves now to temperate responses and cooperative action should God forbid an incident occur.
Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#12 - 2013-04-16 02:46:02 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
NOH's people can't remain unbiased.


Of course they can't remain unbiased.

NOH has its own agenda just like any of the megacorps. In this case, NOH is probably making as much effort as possible to repair its relationship with Federal politicians and regulators so it return to the lucrative Federal entertainment market.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#13 - 2013-04-16 03:20:09 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
NOH's people can't remain unbiased.


Of course they can't remain unbiased.

NOH has its own agenda just like any of the megacorps. In this case, NOH is probably making as much effort as possible to repair its relationship with Federal politicians and regulators so it return to the lucrative Federal entertainment market.


I am, in fact! Why I was just preparing an account of my most recent work on Caldari Prime, which included a delightful teteatete with my nouveau neighbor, Msr. Foiegreuliere... oh.

Wrong Noh! Silly me!
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-04-16 06:06:44 UTC
It appears the Executor failed to realize just how tenuous his position was. No amount of rhetoric can save a Leader who fails to deliver on their words or who does not provide tangible benefits to those they lead.

How disappointing that we, the heirs of Sobaseki, are to be outplayed by Ishukone due to the decisions of Kaalakiota's CEO. I'm certain the billions of KK citizen-stakeholders must now be wondering just how much further their livelihoods are to be curtailed by an Chief Executive who places their own political ambitions before the Greater Good of The Company.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Skilfer Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-04-16 07:44:51 UTC
Toluijin Chagangan wrote:
Just one thing bothers me, I sincerely hope i'm wrong.

In Heth's speech he mentioned the following :

“I will be launching my own investigation of the planet with my own loyal men and women acting completely independently of any Ishukone oversight."

While most have assumed that this means he will be sending CPD members, he has not specifically mentioned this, and as recent events have shown, the CPD are not the only group of individuals that are loyal to Heth.
When his 'delegation' arrives, I hope that the Ishukone Watch and Mordu's forces are prepared for them to be Dragonaur, not CPD.


Seven Tribes.
One Matari People.


I almost guarantee that they will be members of the Dragonaurs based on recent actions, and as such will undoubtably try to create more conflict and probably engage in hostilities themselves. I assure you that Ishukone will be on watch.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#16 - 2013-04-16 07:49:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Wonderful news.

I'm also pleased that both Caldari and Gallente citizens are enjoying Ishukone governing.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

chaosjj
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-04-16 10:51:37 UTC
Great news, too bad Heth will not see the light.
Denak Calamari
Incorruptibles
#18 - 2013-04-16 13:30:21 UTC
Good to know the rehabitation efforts on Caldari Prime are foing well, although I am worried that Heth's "investigation" will reverse all the repair efforts, I am certainly going to defend Caldari Prime in case of such an event. Regardless, I am expecting Heth to lose his power over the State any day now, the sooner the better.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-04-16 14:07:51 UTC
Raven Solaris wrote:
"Following in the traitorous tradition of Otro Gariushi"

I wonder if Tibus realises that accusing one of the most beloved Caldari leaders of being traitorous is a horrible idea, especially when he's already losing support.

I pity those, who consider a criminal to be their "beloved" leader. Please do not account whole Caldari population to voices of a couple of loud dissenters.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-04-18 12:52:17 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Raven Solaris wrote:
"Following in the traitorous tradition of Otro Gariushi"

I wonder if Tibus realises that accusing one of the most beloved Caldari leaders of being traitorous is a horrible idea, especially when he's already losing support.

I pity those, who consider a criminal to be their "beloved" leader. Please do not account whole Caldari population to voices of a couple of loud dissenters.


How odd that the Executor was once more than willing to sing Gariushi's praises, call him a hero, and the finest example of following the Caldari creed after Malkalen. If I was a cynic I would call it nothing more than political opportunism to praise a man one day when it suits political ambitions and to then denigrate him the next when they do not. I would have expected such inconsistency and flip-flopping from a Gallentean Senator but never from a Caldari leader.

However, with the majority of the CEP and the Caldari citizens they represent apparently diametrically opposed to the politics and policies of the Executor and CEO of Kaalakiota it appears I will have to take your advice and discount the voices of the Provists for what they are at present -- nothing more than loud dissenters -- just as I discount yours for the same.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

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