Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As the title states, the restoration of aggression from interdiction needs to happen.
I'm hoping it's just an oversight from the recent Crimewatch overhaul.

For those of you who aren't in the know, and/or don't venture out into 00 allow me to inform you:

The Warp Disruption Probe (Interdiction bubble etc) is a time-limited item that gets launched from an Interdiction Sphere Launcher. This item can only be fit to Interdictors (Sabre, Eris, Heretic, Flycatcher), and can only be used in 00.

When deployed, any ship within the vicinity (20km) of said probe is unable to warp. It doesn't matter if it is friendly or hostile.
These bubbles are used for warp prevention, capital tackle, as well as snaring targets via drag setups.

It is an item/module that is 100% aggressive, as it has no inherit defensive purpose and cannot be activated in empire space.
Bubbles are used for disrupting player warp tunnels from forming and disengaging correctly.

Prior to the most recent changes, if you were to deploy a bubble you were safe from acquiring aggression until someone tried to warp out of it. This made sense because the Interdictor was aggressing a target by preventing the ships warp to function.

Currently, deploying a bubble has absolutely no repercussions. One can deploy bubbles on targets as much as he/she desires (with the target trying to warp), without taking aggression. This is bad.
For players who roam 00 regularly, this makes splitting groups exceptionally difficult, especially in larger hulls. An Interdictor can tackle both sides of a gate via bubble without aggression and without concern that he/she would not be able to jump back out.

The logic implied in the new bubble mechanics suggest that one could deploy bombs without repercussion, although that is most certainly not the case. The aggressive item is deployed and applies an affliction on the enemy. Bombs do so via lock breaking, energy neutralization, or damage to the surrounding area. Disruption probes do so by preventing warp for an extended period of time.

This post is in hopes of drawing attention to other players and possible devs unaware of the situation.
Preventing a players ship from doing anything is an aggressive action, and should be treated as such.

In all likelihood it is an oversight - one of many examples.
I agree with you that the current lack of aggression for this action needs to be changed although I'm not sure I agree with changing it to the way it was.

Shouldn't a player also receive 60 seconds for even deploying a bubble since you can safely deploy one on each gate, without delay, prior to victims/targets reaching them

Was this method of acquiring aggression also applicable to deployable mobile warp disruptors?

Their duration is dependent on whether or not the owner removes them or players destroy them and because of this their average lifetime far exceeds the tiny interdictor bubble life of 2 minutes.

I realise this wasn't the case before crimewatch, but would it not be fair for the proposed aggression mechanics to apply to players who deploy anchorable bubbles?
For balance, a time limit (similar to dictor bubble life) could be imposed during which the anchorer can draw aggro the same way an interdictor can.


I know you didn't, I was just suggesting that perhaps it should.

As an addendum to those mechanics, why are HICtor bubbles banned in lowsec? Nullsec and lowsec are essentially the same animal with except to sec status loss (a non-issue) and gate guns (also a non-issue really).

Bump because CCP Masterplan just said in the Fanfest presentation that Interdiction Probes are currently working as intended.

WTF?

What that means is that preventing someones ability to warp via interdiction probe will never give you aggro.
That is ****** up and should not be the case.

no, this is stupid and lets cowards escape easier

Agree - we must allow baubles to be used in low sec.

Supported +1

I don't mean to knit-pick but if the above is true...




Whats the difference here? I dislike bumping but given the responses from CCP and many many others bumping is NOT an aggressive act. If bubble dropping is made aggressive would bumping be affected? Different method but same purpose / outcome and intent, namely, preventing someone from warping.

I have never been to 0.0 but I would like to someday.

I've said it before about the bumping thing: Only a warp scrambler should keep a ship from warping, and therefore bumping ships in highsec for a longer period should be an aggressive action and result in :concorddoken:.

However, we are talking about bubbles, a module that is not allowed in lowsec and highsec. THAT is the huge difference.

You are not allowed to dock in a station for 1 minute after you aggressed, not even in your own bloody sov-station, but you can drop bubbles all day long and just dock up.

Also another huge difference is: When you are bumping someone, they can be aggressed and countered (counter bumps even), but you can not counter a dictor that keeps bubbling a station, because he never becomes lockable long enough (We tried with remote sebo etc...).