Out of Pod Experience

i kind of enjoyed the swearing at each other in old english (or whatever passed for it anyway) thread. it was sort of fun.

The first rule of Arguing with a Truther is: Don't.
They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Seriously. Truthers and Birthers are fanatics - it is a religion to them, faith over fact and reason. Even though some of them are technically quite smart.
Go figure.

Sadly, it's not just that. My father, god love him, is a Birther. He holds a doctorate in the dual subjects of mechanical and aeronautical engineering. He's a mathemetician with whom to conjur - maybe 1500 other mathematicians on the entire planet can keep up with him. And he's a Birther. Probably because it's easier than admitting to himself that he's an un-reconstructed bigot.

They argue the creationists for the sake of the other people that may be "on the fence", or to further consolidate a solid viewpoint that others can use that may not be the best at discussions, not to convince the creationist.

I still remember that whole venomfang thing, as I was big on watching such videos back then as a part of consolidating my own viewpoint.

And there is of course the old saying "don't argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Maybe, maybe not. At the end of the day, you are pretty much ****** if you are not able to think for yourself and ask questions and adapt your own world view. Too many people seem to lack this capacity.

Because they're doing it for the benefit of the rest of a rather large audience, not for the benefit of that single one guy they're arguing against at any specific time.
Huge difference.
And even they eventually get fed up with people that just ignore anything they say.

Does the idiot even know what an actual Satanist is?

Because I'd be taking that as a compliment, me.

Yeah, by the way, nowadays, religion is a class in school over here (1 or 2 hours per week), starting at age 5-6 (pre-school) up to age 18-19 (the 12th grade). That's 13 years of religion being thought to kids IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
And we're not talking history of religion or anything like that, but actual church dogma.
You can "opt out" if you insist, but the default is to have the "class", and you get some dirty looks (mainly from the religion "teachers", but also most of the other parents) if you do try to opt your kid out, since nearly 95% of the population claims to be a believer in some kind of god.
On the other hand, you have plenty of kids who want to NOT take the class, but the parents are insisting they should.

This whole fiasco started right about 1990 (shortly after the fall of communism), with people over-reacting to the former "state atheism" like crazy persons, putting the orthodox church on a pedestal from which it never came down (quite the opposite, that pedestal has been getting bigger and more ornate every year).
And now you have a country in which nearly half the people think the Sun revolves around the Earth, and more than half believe demonic possession is real, and that whatever the church says can not be wrong, while nearly 80% think miracles that can never be explained by science are actually happening (NO KIDDING).

Latest political stunt was to try and have religion inserted into the constitution of a secular state, and while it did fail today, it's not sure it will fail again several years later when they're sure to try it once more.
Yup, Romania (in spite of being in Eat Europe) is slowly but almost surely turning into a sort of Afghanistan or some other knd of backwater country if nothing will change soon.