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Questions on PI in wormholes
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scorch2
Department of Defense Matrix
#1 - 2013-04-15 22:55:18 UTC
What is the most profitable way to do PI in wormholes?

I'm currently doing basic reactions making roughly 100m/ month per planet


Just wondering if there is a better way because doing advanced on the same planet is even less isk.
Phaderift
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2013-04-15 23:00:32 UTC
.. the most profitable way to do it involves lots of hauling. a guy in my WH showed me a spread sheet once .. P0 is worth the most till you hit p3 and p4 stuff .. each step is pretty much just a method of condensing. the value of the product is fairly static so the only way to get more per planet is to set-up dual extractor heads and then move the P0 to factory planets for final processing
scorch2
Department of Defense Matrix
#3 - 2013-04-15 23:14:49 UTC
Yeah I mean to make a nice easy 600m per month with not much effort is nice I personally do t want to haul stuff all over but I would Haul to a factory planet like you said if its worth it do you k ow how much you can make rolling the factory planet set up? Roughly of course
Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#4 - 2013-04-16 00:10:08 UTC
This is how I make PI work in WHs. I mix having every single character on an account with character/sales/skill farming.

If you feel like a bunch of fuzzy math and useless reading. Read this. Its my blog, and its bad. I also feel bad... because its bad. Its a vicious cycle of badness.


Invading Your Hole

Read more of my ramblings on my blog www.invadingyourhole.blogspot.com
scorch2
Department of Defense Matrix
#5 - 2013-04-16 00:30:59 UTC
Haha good read sir
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#6 - 2013-04-17 19:23:01 UTC
Personally, i have all my extractor planets convert the resources immediately to P1. Then have seperate factory planets to convert them at each stage, P1 > P2, P2 > P3, P3 > P4, and make every type of PI material in the process. Requires considerable hauling between planets, as well as more than one account to achieve the required levels of materials, but once you've got enough P1 and P2 stored up, it can be run pretty much continously. I tend to run my extractors for two day periods.

I personally focus on P4 because its the easiest to haul out of the hole once you've built up a good amount. As someone already said, just exporting P0 can be profitable, but also requires the most hassle in dealing with the vast amounts.

Others find it can also be profitable to focus on a small number of the more valuable types of materials, depending on the market prices, aiming to produce them in large quantities.

Though PI can definately be great for generating isk, as long as you can put up with all that damn clicking. Shocked

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-04-18 03:36:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
The most profitable PI doesn't involve extraction.

Don't ban me, bro!
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-04-18 08:25:36 UTC
avoid the above post. Doesnt worth the time at wh. You need extractor to p1 toons. Gather the p1 products of the chain you want to follow to your pos and use then factories planets to go p3 or p4. Use your best skilled toon for the p3 hauling (transport ships , mwd orca etc) to get in and out rest you only need lvl 4 skill alts and you golden.

Overall every toon will go around 500+ per month profit depending what you doing

Ride hard, live with passion 
Elizabeth S
#9 - 2013-04-22 15:56:07 UTC
Longinius Spear wrote:
This is how I make PI work in WHs. I mix having every single character on an account with character/sales/skill farming.

If you feel like a bunch of fuzzy math and useless reading. Read this. Its my blog, and its bad. I also feel bad... because its bad. Its a vicious cycle of badness.


Invading Your Hole


That.... was an interesting read... I enjoyed almost every second of it! <3
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#10 - 2013-04-22 17:38:56 UTC
Annunaki soldier wrote:
avoid the above post. Doesnt worth the time at wh. You need extractor to p1 toons. Gather the p1 products of the chain you want to follow to your pos and use then factories planets to go p3 or p4. Use your best skilled toon for the p3 hauling (transport ships , mwd orca etc) to get in and out rest you only need lvl 4 skill alts and you golden.

Overall every toon will go around 500+ per month profit depending what you doing




No he is right, if you are not extracting then you are just processing and condensing. Import raw or P0 and refine up as high as you can. Since you don't have to waste grid on extractors you can just run refinery farms with all the grid. Not really feasable in anything other than a c2 with a highsec static though.
Hellynx84
Revolution of Chaos
#11 - 2013-04-23 08:33:55 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
Annunaki soldier wrote:
avoid the above post. Doesnt worth the time at wh. You need extractor to p1 toons. Gather the p1 products of the chain you want to follow to your pos and use then factories planets to go p3 or p4. Use your best skilled toon for the p3 hauling (transport ships , mwd orca etc) to get in and out rest you only need lvl 4 skill alts and you golden.

Overall every toon will go around 500+ per month profit depending what you doing




No he is right, if you are not extracting then you are just processing and condensing. Import raw or P0 and refine up as high as you can. Since you don't have to waste grid on extractors you can just run refinery farms with all the grid. Not really feasable in anything other than a c2 with a highsec static though.



Im with Chris on this one. I have started setting up a planet, that once finalised will be able to run 24hrs a day, purely as a factory planet. I will use an Orca alt to ship in P2 material, and convert it to a P3. It will require the materials topped up, and finished product picked up once per day, taking maybe 10 -15 minutes. When I have a nice supply built up, ship it off to market.

Theoretically, this setup should be good for producing over 1 Billion isk a month in profit, allowing for price fluctuations and tax's.

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