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That's why I put you at number 2 behind Mangala.

Also I have never really been a member of any of the main power blocs, but they generally play Eve the same way I play Eve so despite my high sec living area, I still vote for them. I voted for the Mittani because at the time his platform made sense and he was generally good for the game. I've voted for Mangala Solaris first this year, because he will be a voice of highsec reason, but the majority of the candidates I put on my list are from big 0.0 blocs.

While I would normally be against a null-bloc dominated CSM, the fact is that we need it. Null-sec is horribly broken, and apart from a few regions, pretty much a deserted wasteland. This needs to change.

The real danger is ending up with a CSM which is entirely controlled by the blue donut, the very people who have contributed to the sorry state of Null-sec.

The blue donut will obtain a majority in the CSM thanks to the new STV system. CCPs options for picking the most feature-relevant councilmembers for a trip to Iceland will be seriously limitted.
CCP changed the voting system because they realised they needed better feedback. Similtaneously CCP also tried to obtain feedback trough other channels. They have since monoclegate put a lot of effort into informing us through dev-blogs and discussion threads and reading our feedback posted on the forums. The upcomming election failure will make the CSM less relevant and is a victory for those of us who try to supply usefull feedback through the forums.

[CSM] Is representation of null going to be high enough?


http://i.imgur.com/ufSvgCn.png

So awesome.

And in answer to the thread title: Representation of null will be nearly exactly what it should be.

i would like to see some numbers on your claims. Not just HS chars vs NS chars I mean voters too.

It will be literally impossible to be less representative than CSM6 unless none of the WH guys vote. Literally, impossible (no pirates, no war decers, no serious industrialists, WH guy in an alt spot).

As for the EVE player base as a whole....so what? It will be representative of the EVE voterbase as a whole and as long as the only thing stopping the player base from being the voting base is their own ignorance or apathy, then that's what matters.

Are we sure the only thing stopping them is their own ignorance or apathy?

After all, CSM7 had 16.3% voter turnout...now, seeing as most null players are in blocs and nullsec dwellers are approx 20.07%, and the blocs have voting lists, and TheMittani, arguably head of the largest bloc in eve, got only 10k votes..then, even if no one in empire voted at all, and null-sec players voted ONLY with their null accounts, then even some of them did not bother to vote.

Apathy is an easy cover-all....do players say "Meh, I cba to vote" with no reason, or, do they give a reason why?

Voter Apathy IRL is the same easy cover-all excuse...."People just don't like voting"...apart from when you get a 90% turnout when they feel that it is relevant to them.

Do they feel no one represents them and their views? Do they feel, after certain Null candidates interviews, that their vote does not matter, because, after all, if candidates are told that "I am not being funny, but you have no chance, why didnt you come to me ages ago and make a deal", and voters hear this, what impression does it leave them with?

Do certain statements in interviews along the lines of "We in null dont care about CSM, we just want to prove it is a broken system" impact player perception of CSM?

Maybe players genuinely do not care about CSM...but be sure of statements before claiming ignorance or apathy is what is behind it.

My reaction to those interviews was to get mad...others react differently

Where are you getting these numbers from?

As far as the CSM is concerned they represent whoever wants to vote. It's just the way that it is. And null currently needs representation to both push for fixes to and give feedback on the bottom up income, sov grind and tech issues.

But my question is where did you get the numbers from? With the exception of the passing comment in the CSM minutes, there is no concrete data on where characters live and more importantly what % are alts of null sec players in high sec.