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...but what about the Quafe Catalyst?

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#21 - 2013-04-11 19:14:04 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
iskflakes wrote:
I would love to know why you are re-releasing ships that are in the "Special edition" section of the market. Would it kill you to give us some warning before you destroy rare item collections on a whim?
Try explaining why that would help everybody, in a detailed manner please ...

(btw, i'm serious :p)


Um... uh... because you see... uh.... he would then have knowledge of the impending rarity decline, but .... uhm... uh... nobody else would?

Yeah, then he could sell his collection off before it was devalued to some other poor collector before the knowledge went ... um... public....

Yeah, giving advance warning of a re-release would certainly help out.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#22 - 2013-04-11 19:15:55 UTC
People tend to confuse Special Edition (Different in some way from the standard version) with Limited Edition (Only a limited number will be made available).

These things are not necessarily the same thing.

Unfortunately CCP uses the same term to describe both groups, which further adds to the confusion.

These new skins SHOULD eventually become available to everyone, and should never be tacked onto something that will not be commonly available eventually. Otherwise CCP is shooting themselves in the foot should they get to the point where all ships are available with a variety of skins.

CCP, please clean up your terminology and stop putting new skins on hulls that we commonly use and then restricting the number of them availble. If you want to make true Limited Edition items, reserve it to visually different hulls (such as the Alliance Tournament ships) or other items such as Quafe T-shirts or other items along that line.

You don't need to go thru the drama of eventually releasing a commonly available version of that ship/skin and being accused of destroying the collectors value.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#23 - 2013-04-11 20:30:09 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Gogela wrote:
They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. Big smile
DAMN I've ALWAYS wanted to have a Guardian Vexor ! :D

Me too. Then I got one. Now I've ALWAYS wanted a Silver Magnate. It's a slippery slope... covered in ISK and pod fluid....

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-04-11 20:37:29 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Um... uh... because you see... uh.... he would then have knowledge of the impending rarity decline, but .... uhm... uh... nobody else would?

Yeah, then he could sell his collection off before it was devalued to some other poor collector before the knowledge went ... um... public....

Yeah, giving advance warning of a re-release would certainly help out.

You know ...
... that was what i was expecting, actually ...
... but instead he came up with the new-player-argument .........................................
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-04-11 20:39:08 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Me too. Then I got one. Now I've ALWAYS wanted a Silver Magnate. It's a slippery slope... covered in ISK and pod fluid....
Well ... my reason is just that i want to be the badass using 10 ... TEN ... drones ! :D
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#26 - 2013-04-11 23:32:52 UTC
I could never own a blinged Catalyst. I'd be too tempted to use it to suicide gank a blinged exhumer.

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nomad Raholan
What Corp is it
#27 - 2013-04-12 03:57:12 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Gogela wrote:
They've always done re-re-releases. Even the Apotheosis, the 5 years of CCP ship, was given out in a number of other promotions over the years. The only ones they haven't re-released are the guardian vex, silver/gold magnates, opux yhat, and at ships. Personally, I wish CCP WOULD release more of all of them, particularly the silver/gold magnates and gv. I have a GV. If more were available I'd be a lot more inclined to take mine out and start terrorizing belts or something. I don't care about ISK... I just want moar ships. Big smile
DAMN I've ALWAYS wanted to have a Guardian Vexor ! :D
You basically just answered your own original question.. You can have a guardian vexor, all you need to do is find someone who owns one and purchase it from him. As it is now, the guardian vexor is a VERY rare ship and will cost you a lot of isk. So the owner/collector will either sell it to you at a premium price or not. If they re-release the guardian vexor into the game, the collector suddenly has what was once a valuable collectors item, (due to its popularity and being unavailable) now available in greater numbers which in turn reduces the value of his investment.
Good for those seeking a rare ship, not good for those who now own them as an investment.

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nomad Raholan
What Corp is it
#28 - 2013-04-12 04:01:16 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Gogela wrote:
Me too. Then I got one. Now I've ALWAYS wanted a Silver Magnate. It's a slippery slope... covered in ISK and pod fluid....
Well ... my reason is just that i want to be the badass using 10 ... TEN ... drones ! :D

Fly a carrier

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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#29 - 2013-04-12 05:42:41 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
People tend to confuse Special Edition (Different in some way from the standard version) with Limited Edition (Only a limited number will be made available).


This is a great solution. I too am not a fan of the current system, where certain rare ships can instantly lose their value with a new CCP promo, while others remain unique.

CCP should definitely use two different terms, as you said:

Special Edition (may be released again at a later date, or may not)
Limited Edition (no more will ever be made, like the AT ships)
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-04-12 06:13:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
I have a Toyota Camry LE.....and so do about 20million other people. It also happens to be a SE LE......oddly, it's not anymore valuable or rare.

You guys really should take marketing 101. Everything on this planet are limited editions and so are they special editions. Here, I've got a special and limited edition rock....wanna buy it?

Really, I understand what you collectors are going through....CCP doesn't give a fck about you. The name of their game is how can they make you lose the most isk in the shortest amount of time.

Don't ban me, bro!

Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#31 - 2013-04-12 06:23:15 UTC
These ships are still special addition, as they won't be able to be produced by players. Eventually the deal with go away again, leaving a finite amount on the market, which will likely decrease as more and more of them explode in glorious death.

Also, can i confirm that the buddy program can be used to just open an extra account? Or does it "actually" need to be used by someone else?

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

monkfish2345
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-04-12 08:53:37 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
These ships are still special addition, as they won't be able to be produced by players. Eventually the deal with go away again, leaving a finite amount on the market, which will likely decrease as more and more of them explode in glorious death.

Also, can i confirm that the buddy program can be used to just open an extra account? Or does it "actually" need to be used by someone else?


to get a reward out of it the other account needs to sub for 1 month.

you only have to send the invite to an email address tho, so i'm sure there is no real issue with being a buddy to yourself if you lack friends.
Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#33 - 2013-04-12 08:54:33 UTC
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst




So if you collect them all do we get a free mount?
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#34 - 2013-04-12 16:41:20 UTC
Bump for answers! :D

The Drake is a Lie

Lord Haur
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#35 - 2013-04-12 19:16:33 UTC
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst



Why no Eris?
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#36 - 2013-04-13 17:29:00 UTC
Lord Haur wrote:
CCP Nadir wrote:
Let me take this opportunity to say. . . . . . .the Quafe Catalyst is now available as a reward for the Buddy program.

The new "Catalyst Collection" reward option includes all of the following,


  • Quafe Catalyst
  • Intaki Catalyst
  • Inner Zone Shipping Catalyst
  • Aliastra Catalyst
  • Interbus Catalyst
  • Catalyst



Why no Eris?


Because the Eris is T2

All of the Catalysts mentioned above are just re-skinned version of the normal T1 catalyst and have no other special stats besides the skin itself.

The Drake is a Lie

Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#37 - 2013-04-13 17:40:14 UTC
monkfish2345 wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
These ships are still special addition, as they won't be able to be produced by players. Eventually the deal with go away again, leaving a finite amount on the market, which will likely decrease as more and more of them explode in glorious death.

Also, can i confirm that the buddy program can be used to just open an extra account? Or does it "actually" need to be used by someone else?


to get a reward out of it the other account needs to sub for 1 month.

you only have to send the invite to an email address tho, so i'm sure there is no real issue with being a buddy to yourself if you lack friends.


The key sentence in the Buddy program is:
"The Buddy Program is intended for you to encourage new players to join EVE Online. Violating the purpose of the Buddy Program in any way or form is prohibited."

Seems to suggest to me that it would be required to send to someone else. All my friend either already play EvE, or can't stand it. God knows they hear us talking about it enough as it is. Was considering opening another account, and these catalysts are very tempting! But i sure don't want to break the rules and get the banhammer. Shocked

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#38 - 2013-04-13 20:43:47 UTC
mmm Quafe...

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#39 - 2013-04-15 16:31:11 UTC
Nope, not letting this die.

Answers dammit!

The Drake is a Lie

Laffiques
The Green P0L1CE
#40 - 2013-04-15 20:45:49 UTC
My buddy gave me a catalyst when I subscribed.

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