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Patience Aivoras
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-04-14 04:59:18 UTC
[Drake, WH Striker]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II

Shield Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

I'm flying this, solo. It's perma-tank once I take out the turrets but it takes around 30 mins to clear out a site... Am I doing something wrong? Also I'm looking for others to hit C1/2/3s with. I fly alone and keep getting ganked (inb4 d-scan; I'm too lazy to tap d-scan over and over during my 30-45 mins of drone blasting).
Lenier Chenal
Offensive Upholder
#2 - 2013-04-14 07:04:55 UTC
You're missing a launcher.

Also, keep running sites without hitting D-Scan.

+1 pro Wormholer material.
stup idity
#3 - 2013-04-14 09:38:41 UTC
Use missiles with higher damage and a second bcu (at least for c1/c2).

I am the Herald of all beings that are me.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#4 - 2013-04-14 12:28:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Morgan Torry
1. You're doing wormhole space. Use Cal Navy Scourge....they'll do the trick and definitely speed things up. Thus more isk/hr to offset...even in L4 missions faction ammo is more time efficient than non-faction.
2. Use d-scan or die. Simple. If you keep getting ganked and dying because you can't hit d-scan once every 30 seconds (or more) then you deserve the loss. As long as you recognize that then all's well. If you want an easier way to get ISK without having to do so, go into highsec. Joining up in a group does not mean you don't have to use d-scan...announcing you're too lazy to do basic survival will put off anyone willing to have you along.
3. Missing a launcher, as stated previously.
4. It seems a bit super-tanked. Where does your shield sit in C3s? If it's around or above 50%, you could drop a low for a BCU to pump out slightly more dps.

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#5 - 2013-04-14 12:59:15 UTC
6 Launchers, 1 sisters core expanded probe launcher.
I would recommend faction Invuls, the higher the meta level, the better, som c2s are pesky.
3 BCUs and swap the shield recharger for a TP for c1, c2s.
You could also swap the invuls for passive faction, but I'm being to pesky now.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#6 - 2013-04-14 16:02:50 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
6 Launchers, 1 sisters core expanded probe launcher.
I would recommend faction Invuls, the higher the meta level, the better, som c2s are pesky.
3 BCUs and swap the shield recharger for a TP for c1, c2s.
You could also swap the invuls for passive faction, but I'm being to pesky now.


faction invuls on drake? Thats ridiculous. Otherwise I agree with TP and recharger.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#7 - 2013-04-15 02:12:37 UTC
Oska Rus wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
6 Launchers, 1 sisters core expanded probe launcher.
I would recommend faction Invuls, the higher the meta level, the better, som c2s are pesky.
3 BCUs and swap the shield recharger for a TP for c1, c2s.
You could also swap the invuls for passive faction, but I'm being to pesky now.


faction invuls on drake? Thats ridiculous. Otherwise I agree with TP and recharger.


Fitting an expanded probe launcher to a Drake would gimp it, and faction invulns and saying that C2s are hard (they can be run in AFs) means he's clearly trolling.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2013-04-15 08:08:32 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
6 Launchers, 1 sisters core expanded probe launcher.
I would recommend faction Invuls, the higher the meta level, the better, som c2s are pesky.
3 BCUs and swap the shield recharger for a TP for c1, c2s.
You could also swap the invuls for passive faction, but I'm being to pesky now.


3 CN BCUs to be precise. With 3, one is surely going to drop! I guess that's the logic behind that. In the same way you need 2 CN Invulns or you're a scrub.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-04-15 12:52:35 UTC
When ratting sleepers you want to get your resists as even as possible. More resist on one damage type isn't going to help you while a hole in your resists (EM) will kill you. Sleeper do omni-damage. So, I'd drop that 3rd LSE and plug that hole with something that's going to raise your EM resist.

Swap out those shield relays for BCU's. 3x BCU's 1x DC.

Swap those rigs for Medium Core Defense Field Extenders.

Use T2 scourge for the BS's and Caldari Navy for the frigs and cruisers.

Might even be a good idea to drop a second LSE for an AB to add a bit of speed tank while giving you mobility and making it difficult for cloaky scouts to sneak up on you.

At this point you have a Drake that is more or less fit for small gang PVP. All you have to do is drop an invuln for a point and you're good.

Don't ban me, bro!
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-04-15 13:19:15 UTC
ok fine, i got suckered in to posting on a drake thread so here you go....

1. do not run c3s in a drake, total waste of time.
2. c1s are worth more over time than c2s (but you'll run out of sites faster).
3. your drake fit is bad and you should feed bad about it.
4. most of the suggestions by previous posters are either trolls (Kalel and Lloyd) or just bad (Mr Kidd). see below for a proper C1-2 site drake fit.

Quote:
[Drake, WH Drake]
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hornet EC-300 x5

PS: learn2dscan.

There is no Bob.

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Baggo Hammers
#11 - 2013-04-15 16:11:31 UTC
One BCU is just lame. And I am not hanging out with any noob who doesn't D-Scan.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-04-15 16:40:59 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
ok fine, i got suckered in to posting on a drake thread so here you go....

1. do not run c3s in a drake, total waste of time.
2. c1s are worth more over time than c2s (but you'll run out of sites faster).
3. your drake fit is bad and you should feed bad about it.
4. most of the suggestions by previous posters are either trolls (Kalel and Lloyd) or just bad (Mr Kidd). see below for a proper C1-2 site drake fit.

Quote:
[Drake, WH Drake]
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hornet EC-300 x5

PS: learn2dscan.


mostly solid advice. i disagree on the C3 issue though. there is only one specific wave in one of the anoms that cannot be tanked without warpouts and the dps and projection is still very very good for the price tag.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Phaderift
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2013-04-15 17:34:40 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
ok fine, i got suckered in to posting on a drake thread so here you go....

1. do not run c3s in a drake, total waste of time.
2. c1s are worth more over time than c2s (but you'll run out of sites faster).
3. your drake fit is bad and you should feed bad about it.
4. most of the suggestions by previous posters are either trolls (Kalel and Lloyd) or just bad (Mr Kidd). see below for a proper C1-2 site drake fit.

Quote:
[Drake, WH Drake]
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Hornet EC-300 x5

PS: learn2dscan.



+1 really solid fit should do them all fine .. might have to warp out once or twice
Patience Aivoras
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-04-17 16:03:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Patience Aivoras
How do the target painters help me... Maybe vs. the frigates I might pop them faster but vs everything else is too slow.
Meytal
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-04-18 14:31:55 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
mostly solid advice. i disagree on the C3 issue though. there is only one specific wave in one of the anoms that cannot be tanked without warpouts and the dps and projection is still very very good for the price tag.

He didn't say it wasn't possible, just that it was a waste of time (translation: inefficient). He's right.

Patience Aivoras wrote:
How do the target painters help me... Maybe vs. the frigates I might pop them faster but vs everything else is too slow.

The explosion radius of Furies is larger than the Sleeper's natural sig radius, so less applied damage. Even against Sleeper cruisers. Precisions would hit for better applied damage, but they are shorter range and lower max damage. The Target Painters blow up the Sleepers sig radius enough for Furies to cause more applied damage than Precisions which also gives you extended range.
Omen Nihilo
Omen Holdings
#16 - 2013-04-18 15:54:43 UTC
Would not recommend hole diving without lifeguard.
illy velo
Emergency and I
#17 - 2013-04-18 21:46:28 UTC
Precision missiles do more DPS on sleeper frigs and cruisers than scourge fury does but you lose ~10km range. I carry both and use as needed.
Lydia vanPersie
Soltech Armada
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#18 - 2013-04-19 11:34:23 UTC
Please stop using T2 SPRs, meta4 has identical performance.

(^;