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Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#161 - 2013-04-15 08:33:01 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.



Sigh. You're kind of missing the point. I'm saying that plenty of the "fights" in low/null are basically just one sided, low-risk ganks the same as what happens in highsec, yet when it's done in low/null you accept it, but when it's done in high you start ranting about them being "cowards" or whatever other crap to make yourself feel superior.

Why do so many people think it is fine to gank fairly weak and helpless miners or ratters in low/null, but not in highsec?
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#162 - 2013-04-15 08:41:21 UTC  |  Edited by: John Ratcliffe
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Sigh. You're kind of missing the point. I'm saying that plenty of the "fights" in low/null are basically just one sided, low-risk ganks the same as what happens in highsec, yet when it's done in low/null you accept it, but when it's done in high you start ranting about them being "cowards" or whatever other crap to make yourself feel superior.

Why do so many people think it is fine to gank fairly weak and helpless miners or ratters in low/null, but not in highsec?


Stop trying to justify yourself. You're lily-livered, we get it.

And I expect most people don't think it's fine to gank weak and helpless miners. It's just griefing. Most people would agree consensual PVP in Low/Null is fine, but that's not the same thing is it?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#163 - 2013-04-15 08:41:42 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:


-rabble rabble-



The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.


I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with". Then i watched your lossboard and left satisfied. Someone else allready took care about your corp. Is it possible that your rant is fueled by butthurtness?

Btw, just because i think you might want to be interrested in bulk-charon-deals: WTS Charons.

My true stories
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#164 - 2013-04-15 08:44:39 UTC
StoneCold wrote:

I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with".


I'm shaking in my boots. Deal with it .


Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2013-04-15 08:44:54 UTC
StoneCold wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:


-rabble rabble-



The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.


I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with". Then i watched your lossboard and left satisfied. Someone else allready took care about your corp. Is it possible that your rant is fueled by butthurtness?

Btw, just because i think you might want to be interrested in bulk-charon-deals: WTS Charons.


just stupid.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14747145

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#166 - 2013-04-15 08:45:56 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Sigh. You're kind of missing the point. I'm saying that plenty of the "fights" in low/null are basically just one sided, low-risk ganks the same as what happens in highsec, yet when it's done in low/null you accept it, but when it's done in high you start ranting about them being "cowards" or whatever other crap to make yourself feel superior.

Why do so many people think it is fine to gank fairly weak and helpless miners or ratters in low/null, but not in highsec?


Stop trying to justify yourself. You're lily-livered, we get it.

And I expect most people don't think it's fine to gank weak and helpless miners. It's just griefing. Most people would agree consensual PVP in Low/Null is fine, but that's not the same thing is it?


So you think non-consensual PVP in low/null is griefing too?

Oh my, lmao
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#167 - 2013-04-15 08:47:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
According to the mentally of some here they confirm that i am really afraid of Null.. Low... and WH.

Even though my start in EVE was low/null.

I hated the many vs many although it really becomes many vs 1 gameplay. The constant traveling to find 1 target willing to undock only to warp in triage carriers to support his 1 battleship.

People in Highsec... Targets that make me ISK. I don't need to mine/rat to make ISK... Never.

Remove wars from Highsec I only see one thing happening, more people moving into highsec to stay safe. Say what you like, I know the majority of null/low guys are just as afraid of loosing his ship as the person in highsec. Which is why they all dock up the second a neut enters system. Yes you get your few that actually undock and go on the chase but 90% won't unless there is not some sort of fleet going with support.

EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
flakeys
Doomheim
#168 - 2013-04-15 08:49:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I can attack you at any time in space and even reach into stations to get you.



At some point grandeur is really close to stupidity .....



We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#169 - 2013-04-15 08:53:30 UTC
culo duro wrote:
just stupid.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14747145


The harshest lessons are the best remembered. Weren't you a n00b once?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#170 - 2013-04-15 08:59:29 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm


Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2013-04-15 09:10:12 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm


Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.


Kane will just show up alone and win... that's how he does it. :p

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
flakeys
Doomheim
#172 - 2013-04-15 09:10:52 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm


Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.



I'm unsure if you know kane ... if you did you'd know he is not one shy of bringing equal or lower numbers.Let's just say he knows the pvp game better then most.

That said it is funny kane that this ''needs to be dealt with'' because ''oh my somoene talked bad about high sec gankers/greifers'' on the public forums .

This ain't high school son ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#173 - 2013-04-15 09:11:38 UTC
flakeys wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I can attack you at any time in space and even reach into stations to get you.



At some point grandeur is really close to stupidity .....




Simply pointing out a fact.
StoneCold
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
#174 - 2013-04-15 09:12:09 UTC
Was about to say if there´s only 3 of you we or Kane alone got not a chance to bring something close to an "even" number.

My true stories
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#175 - 2013-04-15 09:12:42 UTC
flakeys wrote:
John Ratcliffe wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm


Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.



I'm unsure if you know kane ... if you did you'd know he is not one shy of bringing equal or lower numbers.Let's just say he knows the pvp game better then most.

That said it is funny kane that this ''needs to be dealt with'' because ''oh my somoene talked bad about high sec gankers/greifers'' on the public forums .

This ain't high school son ....


I know it just seemed like the right thing to say due to the mentally in this thread.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Dave Stark
#176 - 2013-04-15 09:13:12 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm


Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.


please record this encounter, i'd be ever so interested in watching it.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#177 - 2013-04-15 09:13:54 UTC
flakeys wrote:
I'm unsure if you know kane ... if you did you'd know he is not one shy of bringing equal or lower numbers.Let's just say he knows the pvp game better then most


I don't know him and I don't care what his reputation is. I'm not scared of a fight and I'm not scared of losing ships.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#178 - 2013-04-15 09:15:08 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
....It is impossible to compete with high sec industry. It is entirely possible to tank a barge to be unprofitable to gank.

A Retriever... no. That is why you use a Procurer.


You can make them unprofitable to gank in 0.7 space and up.
Anunzi
Solace Corp
#179 - 2013-04-15 09:20:25 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
culo duro wrote:
just stupid.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14747145


The harshest lessons are the best remembered. Weren't you a n00b once?




Everyone was a noob once. however, noobs don’t fly round in 3.8 billion isk mission Ravens, only older players can afford that.

You got smacked because you weren’t paying attention and lost a bling boat, so you thought you’d come here and throw ad hominem attacks at members of the forum. All you are doing is proving the OP correct.

Oh, and before you start, no I don’t gank in high sec. Never have. However that does not mean I don’t think it’s a perfectly viable pastime for those who chose to engage in it.

"It was the way she said it, Rimmer, to rhyme with scum"
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#180 - 2013-04-15 09:23:33 UTC
Newbies don't fly around in pimped out 3 billion isk mission running ships.

Baddies do that.