EVE General Discussion

Can't edit posting from satelite but I want to add:

don't mistake the above with an unneeded defense for max yield dumbies. They deserve to pop as much as mining deserves to be done AFK.

I've seen them miners ganking those defenceless roids ... totally unfair.

Hehe I am not on Mars (yet!), just in the middle of the ocean, (ab)using the ship's satelite comms.

Good enough for ice mining.

well this post turned into exactly what i thought it would.....

which is 50 people giving their opinion on how to avoid being ganked (what tank to use what ship to fly) and or people giving their version of why they support ganks. I love the posts about getting logi pilots to sit next to you when your mining. The post where the guy goes "maybe one day miners will learn to use logi pilots" yea thats real realistic that your going to find people literally willing to sit next to you glued to their computer doing nothing for hours on end. As if mining wasnt boring enough for self benefit you think you are going to find (on a regular basis) people insane enough to attentively watch their screen for hours of mindless mining just on the off chance you might get ganked at little to no profit for themselves?

This post was about destroyers costing next to nothing compared to what they can bring down in a gank thats it. It was NOT about complaining about the gank, how to stop a gank, or that high sec should be safe, yet the mindless drones just take the EASY road and go off talking about the fact that ganking is harder and ganking should be allowed and bla bla bla it goes on like this in ever response.

Why shouldn't destroyers just cost 2 mill to outfit or maybe 500k? where does it end? when would you the public consider it too cheap to fit a destroyer that can take out a 50 or 200 mill ship? Is there any limit in price difference that EVE players would object too? I swear posts like this are just excuses for fan boys to take up arms for CCP and admit no fault. I just wonder if the cost of a destroyer load out was 200k would you care? From the tone o f responses the community would probably defend that as well.

And of course when you say "i think destroyers are too cheap for what they can do" the mindless rebuttal response is "so what? you think only ships of equal value should be able to kill each other?" No....obviously that is not what i think although it would make trolling this OP so much easier for you. Im saying that when you consider all things such as High sec, a mining ship with no real tank either ( i said this already that mackinaws and skifs are nice tank but the macks can still be killed with cheap hardware such as multiple gankers in cheap ships), how horribly boring it is to mine that you expect entire groups of people to be glued to their screen working in some kind of team on Team speak ready to move at a moments notice isjust stupidity and un realistic.

I simply dont think the price difference is fair when you have 50-200 million mining vessels taken down by cheap throw away ships that a player could care less about losing to concord because it is literally throw away money that is a problem. I mean why not just have tech I frigates with 500k fittings killing mining vessels? is 8-10 million that much different? Its just ******** the ganker stands to lose nothing, infact they can nearly break even or make money in some cases by ganking a high sec miner.

ITs just my opinion i know but its just stupid and i guess no one agrees with it and thats fine but at least when you post stay on topic instead of twisting it into some easy to argue topic like ganking in high sec vs not ganking in high sec or how to avoid getting ganked all of which has nothing to do with his post

If tanking was based upon isk price then the federate issue megathron would have a base tank 11 times greater than a titan. Thats how stupid an idea tanking based upon the cost of a ships hull is.

once agian you take what i say and try to twist it into the easiest to troll stance you can imagine

I NEVER SAID TANK SHOUDL BE BASED ON COST OF SHIPS? I simply said that mining ships are just getting ganked way to easy. All i hear is fly a mackinaw fly a skiff....well i do belive in my OP i was defending newer players i even said that in my post. NEWER PLAYERS CANT FLY MACKINAWS AND SKIFFS so its kina a mute point when you tell people to just sit on their hands till they can fly the tech 2 ship that allows you not to be blow the F up in 2 seconds in order to mine.

Look at this

Can you see the problem?

No tank fitted at all. THAT is why they die so easily, they make it easy to kill them by fitting no defences at all.

as i already said in previous post i have fit tanked retrivers that get popped easy by one guy

I will add to this thread that while I have lost exhumers to opportunistic ganks (seriously, the one time I take a leak while mining, a bunch of cruisers and destroyers suicide gank me), I have never lost a combat ship in the same way. This is despite having on many occasions leaving a Tengu flying away from station for half an hour, having forgotten to turn on the autopilot.