Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Gallente are dependant ( just like the ammar ) on cap to fire so no you can not use it all for XL-SB's and to remove the RoF bonus is good IMO ( making the mega too cap hungry is bad voodoo ).

On the case of fall off I don't see it being such a problem as you are making out, the one thing I have been taking away from this thread is " the mega has a small engagement range " and while the extra 2.3 - 2.4 k fall off for void and 6.7 - 6.8 k fall off for null would help this I don't believe it will brake the game.

I wanted to write a summation of what I think overall most people want:

1) They Hyper is fine but the Rep bonus needs to be changed. I have seen some great ideas such as MWD/AB speed increase, Web Range increase, Scram range increase, or even a Falloff/Optimal range bonus. The current rep bonus really does exclude this ship from fleets and needs to be changed. (if you like a tank bonus just make it have resist bonuses)

2) The Mega it seems that most people really want to have 5 Mids instead over the 8 lows (this will make it able to be fit in ship doctrines). To offset the loss of required 3rd Mag Stab to put the ship back where it was in DPS it will need get back more drones. The new ROF bonus though seems good also comes with huge cap problems and this needs to be addressed along with CPU issues. I have also seen some recommendations about changing the tracking bonus with falloff/optimal bonus and web range bonuses. Simply put, this is the most iconic Gallente ship and really time and effort needs to be made in making it useful. It was the BS that made me want to play the game all those years ago.

3) The Domi, well first I just want to say the hull graphics need to be changed ASAP it is just terrible and many refuse to fly it because of that. The current changes in the Domi really dont work at all. Sniper drone ships don't work because you have to move so much but sentries are stationary. IF you are going to change the bonuses from hybrid turrets the you really need to give it more versatility. I have seen many ideas posted in here but giving a MWD speed bonus is also important, EWAR bonus is needed and possibly giving it a drone repair bonus. I would also remove 2 turret slots (giving it 4 turret slots but still 6 highs) and increasing the drone damage to 15%. This will truly make it a drone boat.


The changes are getting there but we need some more tweaks. I have not seen a Gallente BS in any fleet doctrines that I know of and we need to change this.

Okay, so basically. Make the Hyperion and the Megathron 7/5/7 ships with different bonuses so both can be considered for large fleets? I have to say that's not what I'd have in mind.

The way I see it, the 7/5/7 Hyperion w/Damage&Rep is fine. This turns it into a ship that hits hard and can keep itself going for a bit of time. The biggest problem with it is this "Combat" role crap. Turn it into the "Attack" role line (give it a bit less raw hp, boost that speed), leave its bonuses alone, fix active armor tanking, and the Hyperion becomes a great solo/small gang ship that fights like a demon and can keep itself rampaging for a short period of time. You won't feel the need to slap speed reducing modules like trimarks on it because it becomes a brawler that is also it's own Logistics. Dual rep, resists, tracking, and power. With that extra 7th low and the Armor Rep rig change it helps put it in a better spot (maybe needs a smidgen more PG?). Change the armor rep bonus to include LARs and you can make some nice Hype Duos but I'm not sure about the balance on that. The Hyperion doesn't need such a big drone bay either. 100mbit/125m3 would be all right by me.

The 7/4/8 Megathron is okay, but it's a bit weird for Gallente. Swap it over to the combat role so we don't feel so bad slamming it with trimarks, 1600s, and EANMs. And give it a more respectable drone bay. And a smidgen more CPU, doesn't have to be much.

And as for the Dominix... a MWD bonus? I really don't think so. Give it a 10% to Drone Effectiveness (HP, Range, Damage, etc.) to give its sentries the benefit they NEED (control range - and it'd still be a max of 90km at all V) and to help turn it into a pure drone boat, then the second bonus is pretty much flavor.

I'm not sure if I like the Hyperion as the Attack and Mega as the Combat based on hull looks, as they both look pretty sleek and fast, but with the proposed balance changes it just makes the most sense.

I wasn't taking about giving the Domi the MWD speed buff but the drones so that Heavy Drones get some benefit.

Also, I have never heard of Gallente BS in any corp/alliance doctrines. I am not just talking about my own.

Other than that the ideas I posted are a summary of what most have said in these posts. Most would agree that the current active rep bonus is rather limiting and should be changed. Most want a 5th Mid on the Mega and drones back. Most want the ugly domi changed and it to be more rounded than a sentry sniper boat that does not work. Other skills vary but that's the real issues along with the fact the Gallente have no fleet ships and the current changes don't change this.

Actually, no. No they don't. You are fixated on an arbitrary number that means nothing. They just need a ship with the same amount of effective turrets. What would be ideal is a Gallente BS with only one turret and a ridiculous damage bonus on it - uses less cap, lasts longer overheated, uses less ammo.

I have not forgotten it I replaced it for the + 7.5% ( +10% ) bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor range per level making it able to hold onto its target and the fall off to hit slightly further.



I thought we was discussing gallente changes for odessey ship bonus, ship stats and slot layout arguments for and against such changes and to have our input into these changes.




people are stupid and the person is smart there are documented cases showing how the crowd can mess with your ideas (as an individual ) and as such will dismiss calls for a set slot layout from such masses.



The utility is now the hyp's.
I don't believe the +7m/s is enough for the mega


If it is so arbitrary why not have 8 turrets, my hope for 8 turrets was in an attempt to ballence out the RoF bonus I suggested in removing in favour for the ship bonus I put forward earlier.

Still waiting on that role swap between Hype and Mega, CCP. This is the most logical way if u think about it carefully. I'll leave the slots layout and bonus to you guys but please, just please swap the roles already!

So how much did the facist Caldari State pay you guys to bastardize all 3 Gallente BS at the same time? Maybe 2 since the Hyperion sucks anyways. Drones don't need the new bonus on Dominix and taking away the turret DPS sucks. Mega got shafted so hard, no more big drones and the RoF change is whatevers.

What Odyssey should be about is like the Honda Odyssey, originally based on the Honda Accord, it evolved into something different. I suggest taking a look at the human side of things and by human, I mean the people in capt's quarter. What it is now is a expensive prison designed for rich inmates.

The megathron, as an attack battleship, is going to need more maneuverability and speed to counter being plated. The hyperion, being active armor-tanked combat battleship, will probably be faster than the megathron.

The new Megathron does not stand out to me as being that much more turret focused than the Hyperion.

9.3333 effective turrets vs 9, 50mbit less drones. Shouldn't the Mega be gankier than the Hype?