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Why don't gankers and war deccers just go to low/null/wh space????
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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#21 - 2013-04-14 13:32:46 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
Why would they go down to the roughest corner in town and pick on the tough guys in leather jackets that may have knives and fight back when they can go-round behind the elementary school and kick sand in kids faces and take their lunch money just to laugh at them while they cry?


I like the part where you just repeat the exact fallacy my post was mocking.

My point, my dear sweet bear, is that a lot of people who get blown up in low, null and wh space aren't "tough guys in leather jackets that may have knives and fight back". A lot of the people who die in low, null and wh space are EXACTLY as weak and helpless as your sorry little highsec bear ass. Except you don't have a problem with them being on the side of "unfair" and unwanted PVP.

Silly bear.



Excuse me, but our WH corp is no afraid of any battle and we often engage in combat without the safety of local or alike, engaging a dreadnough or a lone mining barge in a WH its just as dangerous, most of time if not always you know there will be unknown cloaked enemies or people at the adjacent just waiting to jump into the battle.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-04-14 13:45:46 UTC
the "people that actually shoot back" are also "the ones who tend to not have anything worth taking"

shooting scrubs in faction/deadspace fit mission machs and taking their shiny mods is fun for everyone involved

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flakeys
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-04-14 14:02:12 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#24 - 2013-04-14 14:06:34 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
I *REALLY* wan't to jump into a Catalyst and blow up a miner now.

I suddenly feel better...

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17239068

...
Irya Boone
The Scope
#25 - 2013-04-14 14:07:12 UTC
i am in the thread ^^ i'm in it

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
flakeys
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-04-14 14:10:28 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Noddy Comet wrote:
Why would they go down to the roughest corner in town and pick on the tough guys in leather jackets that may have knives and fight back when they can go-round behind the elementary school and kick sand in kids faces and take their lunch money just to laugh at them while they cry?


I like the part where you just repeat the exact fallacy my post was mocking.

My point, my dear sweet bear, is that a lot of people who get blown up in low, null and wh space aren't "tough guys in leather jackets that may have knives and fight back". A lot of the people who die in low, null and wh space are EXACTLY as weak and helpless as your sorry little highsec bear ass. Except you don't have a problem with them being on the side of "unfair" and unwanted PVP.

Silly bear.



What he means is not how much risk HE is taking or looking for , it is about the risk YOU are taking by ganking in empire .A high-sec ganker/griefer is one of the most risk averse player in the game.

That's the stupid thing about these discussion , you get the ones who are the most risk averse talk about how risk averse high-seccers are.You got the gankers/griefers and then the guys from the biggest blue nullblocks talking about risk .... gimme a break .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#27 - 2013-04-14 14:10:30 UTC
flakeys wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll


What part of concord will kill you, sec loss, open to being attacked from everyone else, not having the cargo/loot drop and having a killright on your head that can be claimed at any time is low risk?
flakeys
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-04-14 14:13:26 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
flakeys wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll


What part of concord will kill you, sec loss, open to being attacked from everyone else, not having the cargo/loot drop and having a killright on your head that can be claimed at any time is low risk?



Haha you call that risk ? OW gimme a break ,even if you would do that on your main and a main that is mostly in empire not a null weekend visitor that isn't even a risk.


You guys are so delusional that your playing the tough part of the game it has become sad by now .....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2013-04-14 14:20:48 UTC
flakeys wrote:



Haha you call that risk ? OW gimme a break ,even if you would do that on your main and a main that is mostly in empire not a null weekend visitor that isn't even a risk.


You guys are so delusional that your playing the tough part of the game it has become sad by now .....


So being open to attack from everyone every time you undock isnt a risk now?

What is?
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-04-14 14:23:09 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
flakeys wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll


What part of concord will kill you, sec loss, open to being attacked from everyone else, not having the cargo/loot drop and having a killright on your head that can be claimed at any time is low risk?


probably the part where that doesn't apply to your main.

forums.  serious business.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2013-04-14 14:26:14 UTC
Skeln Thargensen wrote:


probably the part where that doesn't apply to your main.


You must be new here.
Funky Lazers
Funk Freakers
#32 - 2013-04-14 14:27:59 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?

I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!


In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.


Because otherwise they will get their аss kicked in null/low by people who can shoot back.

Whatever.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2013-04-14 14:30:01 UTC
Funky Lazers wrote:


Because otherwise they will get their аss kicked in null/low by people who can shoot back.


That must be why we dont own the best moons in the galaxy...
Akuyaku
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-04-14 14:49:28 UTC
Funky Lazers wrote:

Because otherwise they will get their аss kicked in null/low by people who can shoot back.

But the people in low/null DON'T shoot back. They just dock up. People in highsec seldom check local for baddies/ go afk a lot. Whereas people in low/null dock the moment a non-blue enters system.
flakeys
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-04-14 14:50:36 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Skeln Thargensen wrote:


probably the part where that doesn't apply to your main.


You must be new here.


I think last time i was -10 it took me a week playing a few hours in the evening to get it back above 1.0 and that was doing it in completely neut null space.Unlike you i couldn't choose from what 4 or 5 regions to safely do my grinding in?

And with that i also risked my clone wich was a full slave set btw and a ship EVEN MORE expensive then a cata .. OMG I KNOW , i must be the king of the risktakers.


Wait wait best part comes .... AND IT SURVIVED till i had to go out of null again BUT the pod was intact.


They should crown me king bigballs and put me as the leader of you guys.I would call you small spaceballs ..... and that shall be thou name till those balls drop in.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-04-14 14:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
99.9% of the gankers out there hide their outlaw asses in station,
or in pods next to their ships, relying on neutral alts to do the work for them,
who sit around at a gate all day.

Stupid noobs and *definitely* cowards !

The only thing that's actually worth complaining about, though,
is the fact that all those carebears who whine about gankers being cowards
don't actually do anything to get rid of them, thus making themselves look even worse.
Prince Kobol
#37 - 2013-04-14 14:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
baltec1 wrote:
flakeys wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll


What part of concord will kill you, sec loss, open to being attacked from everyone else, not having the cargo/loot drop and having a killright on your head that can be claimed at any time is low risk?



I love it when goons try to make ganking sound so dangerous.

I have ganked lots of mining ships on various accounts and I'm nothing but a big cuddly scrub noob carebear.

Lets cover a few of the points you raised.

Open to attack from anybody else.. well nothing like having a few safe spots or a orca ready to poop out a ship that you can jump into and cloak to negate that risk.

Kill right.. let see, if one is made available (which most of the time they aren't) then all you need is a friend\alt in a different corp + 1 noob ship and wave goodbye to the kill right.

Looting the wreck.. not really worth it but again a alt in a insta warp ship will do the trick fine.

So yeah when even a cuddly carebear scrub noob like me can gank people the risk is pretty damn low lol.

Unlike most people I don't try and come up with a number of in depth and psychological reasons why I gank people, I do because there are times I enjoy being a **** and because I can, it really is that simple.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2013-04-14 14:55:46 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
flakeys wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll


What part of concord will kill you, sec loss, open to being attacked from everyone else, not having the cargo/loot drop and having a killright on your head that can be claimed at any time is low risk?



I love it when goons try to make ganking sound so dangerous.

I have ganked lots of mining ships on various accounts and I'm nothing but a big cuddly scrub noob carebear.

Lets cover a few of the points you raised.

Open to attack from anybody else.. well nothing like having a few safe spots or a orca ready to poop out a ship that you can jump into and cloak to negate that risk.

Kill right.. let see, if one is made available (which most of the time they aren't) then all you need is a friend\alt in a different corp + 1 noob ship and wave goodbye to the kill right.

Looting the wreck.. not really worth it but again a alt in a insta warp ship will do the trick fine.

So yeah when even a cuddly carebear scrub noob like me can gank people the risk is pretty damn low lol.

There are more things to gank than worthless piece of trash in mining barges.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2013-04-14 14:56:58 UTC
flakeys wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Skeln Thargensen wrote:


probably the part where that doesn't apply to your main.


You must be new here.


I think last time i was -10 it took me a week playing a few hours in the evening to get it back above 1.0 and that was doing it in completely neut null space.Unlike you i couldn't choose from what 4 or 5 regions to safely do my grinding in?

And with that i also risked my clone wich was a full slave set btw and a ship EVEN MORE expensive then a cata .. OMG I KNOW , i must be the king of the risktakers.


Wait wait best part comes .... AND IT SURVIVED till i had to go out of null again BUT the pod was intact.


They should crown me king bigballs and put me as the leader of you guys.I would call you small spaceballs ..... and that shall be thou name till those balls drop in.


You wasted your time. We dont even bother grinding our sec back, people in high sec are far too cowardly to attack us.
Prince Kobol
#40 - 2013-04-14 14:58:08 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
flakeys wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
For them and their low-risk playstyle



Ganker talking bout low-risk playstyle .... did you forget to put another ''sarcasm offfcourse'' as in the OP below this one ? Roll


What part of concord will kill you, sec loss, open to being attacked from everyone else, not having the cargo/loot drop and having a killright on your head that can be claimed at any time is low risk?



I love it when goons try to make ganking sound so dangerous.

I have ganked lots of mining ships on various accounts and I'm nothing but a big cuddly scrub noob carebear.

Lets cover a few of the points you raised.

Open to attack from anybody else.. well nothing like having a few safe spots or a orca ready to poop out a ship that you can jump into and cloak to negate that risk.

Kill right.. let see, if one is made available (which most of the time they aren't) then all you need is a friend\alt in a different corp + 1 noob ship and wave goodbye to the kill right.

Looting the wreck.. not really worth it but again a alt in a insta warp ship will do the trick fine.

So yeah when even a cuddly carebear scrub noob like me can gank people the risk is pretty damn low lol.

There are more things to gank than worthless piece of trash in mining barges.



Yeah hit a couple of haulers afk'ing towards gates, nothing like a T2 indy ship fitted right to do the job :)