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I got into an interesting discussion on Singularity in the Mass Testing channel'
One guy testing fittings and how much damage he can get so he equipped the highest damage ammo (I think for his case it was Large Dread Guristas Anti-Matter rounds) which of course, no one uses on TQ. It costs like 200-300K ISK per round, no ones gonna buy that crap...

And I thought, ok' its for alittle more enjoyment.
Then he asked where he could get a few Officer type modules from (weapons and damage upgrades) and of course, their not seeded because everyone would use them.

Logic?
Whats the difference if everyones gonna use the same ammo/module variant anyways?
Highest damage round, everyone uses it. Because if they cant, their opponent has a better chance of winning a fighter than them.
Another fact is that everyone Can use them, it doesnt require higher skills because its Faction, not T2.

So I thought, why not seed all of it?
Asked a ISD/BH and his + someone elses reply was:
"Maybe CCP need faction ammo tested but not faction mods?"
"Like I say, things are seeded according to testing requirements, nothing more"
"well as everyone says, the Test server isnt designed for User enjoyment, Its designed for the devs etc, to test"

But why do people use the highest damage ammo, mods and ships?
To enjoy themselves as much as possible, and to have a higher chance of beating the other player~

Furthermore, wouldn't it be wiser to seed everything (an exception being supers I guess, unless their seeded in one system, far away from the main testing grounds in a secret place) and to have a message popping up when you log in, "Just about everything has been seeded, but please test (List of Specific Ammunition), (List of Specific Modules), (List of Specific Ships) a few times every now and then!" and have it updated according to what Needs testing?

I think it would help the testing community greatly ~
Variation over Limitation is better in my opinion, and I think more would agree'
Maybe even giving people a vote on these sorts of thing should be available

PS:

Having a system next door to 6-C with only the modules, ships and ammunition that needs to be tested, being the Only things seeded would also be helpful'

This isnt a playground, but everyones trying their hardest to make it one

Cassual faction ammo everyone uses, even the slightly rarer/more costly type; but the highest damage, most rarest and costliest ammo on the market,' no one uses.

As for Supers, in the end' nearly everyone still uses them...
If not, its their lower tier - capital varients such as Carriers and Dreadnoughts which a larger portion of the population uses, than subcapitals which is quite rediculous. You cant warp into a ca expecting a carrier or anti-subcap dreadnought to not be there or not on its way after you arrive...

Why I said "seed supers in a spot Far away from the main testing grounds" is implying that a fair portion of the testing population is lazy, alot dont want to go that far to get a super' even more don't have a cyno alt to travel, to place Multiple cyno's just to get a single super carrier or titan into the testing system. Its mainly the playerbase that already Has a super that gets into 6-c, and theres alot of people that do that.

There would still be a good gap between "Taking a week or two to claim a nullsec system, spend 5 hours hauling, then spending a month or two to Build the supercap, spending an extra few days cyno'ing it to near 6-C"; and buying a supercap in the same station without even needing to cyno or spend extra time in preperation.

But, thats just my opinion. Its not fact, just assumptions' might be wrong, might be right. Up to CCP to decide on the probabilities.


As for TQ market influences from the SISI testing and seeding'
It would be quite interesting~

More people would be trying to earn more ISK to buy the over priced modules simply because their use to them on SISI. Just like me wearing HG Slave implants makes me feel more vulnreble in pvp on TQ because im use to that extra boost in hp =P
Again, not all of the player base would be influenced by it'

Testing doesnt mean Judging or giving opinions through feedback though it is welcomed'
just means to see if what the item is meant to be used for, Work 100% for that purpose'
other than doing it client side with a few people locally, doing it over a large network can fork out alot of bugs and crap

But, 9/10 dont know What to test, they dont even Let us know what to test...
they give us a new ship, they dont say weather it Needs testing or not

ccp needs to sort through their ****, test server isnt a test server if nobody but the devs test; other wise its a 'local' dev testing server.

you've heard of industrials and freighters right? what's to stop people like me who have the skills to fly one from buying a seeded freighter, going to said 'far away' spot, buying up all of the seeded officer/faction modules i can carry, hauling them to the testing ground and selling them for 100x what i paid for them? sure, i'm only making 10k per module, but who wouldn't buy an officer module for 10k?

a month down the road, i build a titan and fit it with all officer modules and fill the highs with civilian miner 1's.


This is not what Singularity is for, my friend. And this is exactly what you have to expect that people will do. Granted, the officer fit civilian miner I titan is a bit of a stretch, but I'm sure that you can get the point that I'm pitching right down the middle for you. No matter how you swing it, and this is not a continuation of the baseball metaphor, the idea is a poorly thought out one.

I wish that I could provide a solution to the problem, rather than saying, hey it's a problem...but the dev/bh team have likely already brainstormed the matter.

Officer mods are supposed to be OP and the best in the game. They currently are, but are in most cases prohibitively expensive.

Working as intended; no further testing necessary.