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Can flipping over with Retribution?!

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Polaris Sagan
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-04-13 18:59:45 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:



Definition of JETTISON

: a voluntary sacrifice of cargo to lighten a ship's load in time of distress


What's the button to create a jetcan again? "Jettison" I think it is.


From that link you just posted: Definition of JETTISON

1: to make jettison of
2: to get rid of as superfluous or encumbering : omit or forgo as part of a plan or as the result of some other decision must be prepared to jettison many romantic notions — Christopher Catling
3: to drop from an aircraft or spacecraft in flight

Look at definition 3... Doesn't just mean to throw away because its trash...

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1. He never said otherwise, and specifically said that he got in fun fights with corpmates. So I don't see what "No, only the person and his corp (some players are in a corp by themselves or npc corps) that could shoot you before... " this was supposed to indicate other than not reading his post.

2. Why shouldn't there be consequences to flying alone in dangerous space (all space in EVE is, by definition, dangerous)? Sometimes your ore gets stolen and you're best option is to move to another belt.

3. When I used to flip cans to get fights, I'd go after Exhumers because they were more likely to aggress. Very few people bother to hunt newbies because newbies generally don't have anything worth taking.


Not going to answer point 1 again because I have already stated what I meant...
To answer point 2... You're arguing that there should be consequences to jetcan mining, there is...you can get it stolen... And the consequence to the thief who stole it means they can get shot from everyone...
To answer point 3. Not everyone does go after exhumers though... Which is the point I was making, A lot of can flippers go after the easy ones, like noobs, to simply be a pain in the ass. Ps My alt is a pirate and I have flipped my fair share of cans from mining fleets...I actually like the new system where everyone can shoot me if i do it...means i have to do it with tactics so i dont get shot...)


Lets get one thing clear. I am all for people thieving of others, it adds fun to the game. But I am also all for them being allowed to be shot by everyone.
Shilyndel
Sheep with Lazers
#62 - 2013-04-13 19:01:10 UTC
I looked at the can flipping thing as a right of passage for people in high sec. I went through it, so I put others through it. Actually met some cool people doing it. Helped a lot of players out as well.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#63 - 2013-04-13 19:02:05 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jettison
Definition of JETTISON

: a voluntary sacrifice of cargo to lighten a ship's load in time of distress


What's the button to create a jetcan again? "Jettison" I think it is.


it's just that if you then right-click on it there's a option to abandon it so I don't think merriam webster is much help here!

forums.  serious business.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#64 - 2013-04-13 19:03:25 UTC
The suspect system isn't the problem, it's the ore bay of the ships so no one jet cans anymore. When i left my first corp who had rules against can flipping, the first thing I did was go look for can miners. It took about 10 hours to get 2 can flip kills. What a waste of time.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2013-04-13 19:04:48 UTC
Shilyndel wrote:
Don't like the way they are "softening" up the game. Makes me not want to play it.

...

... Thoughts?



Can I have your stuff?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#66 - 2013-04-13 19:17:02 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Polaris Sagan wrote:
If youre going to steal you should be ready to face the consequences from whoever...surely?


If you're going to throw valuable things in the trash, you should be ready to face the possibility of someone taking it from you... surely?


When all else fails, pull out the argument from three years ago. The same one shot down a hundred times.

Mr Epeen Cool


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jettison
Definition of JETTISON

: a voluntary sacrifice of cargo to lighten a ship's load in time of distress


What's the button to create a jetcan again? "Jettison" I think it is.


Definition of MORON

Person insisting on applying real world definitions to fantasy game mechanics.

Mr Epeen Cool
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#67 - 2013-04-13 19:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Mr Epeen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Polaris Sagan wrote:
If youre going to steal you should be ready to face the consequences from whoever...surely?


If you're going to throw valuable things in the trash, you should be ready to face the possibility of someone taking it from you... surely?


When all else fails, pull out the argument from three years ago. The same one shot down a hundred times.

Mr Epeen Cool


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jettison
Definition of JETTISON

: a voluntary sacrifice of cargo to lighten a ship's load in time of distress


What's the button to create a jetcan again? "Jettison" I think it is.


Definition of MORON

Person insisting on applying real world definitions to fantasy game mechanics.

Mr Epeen Cool



And it's only one of several meanings. It does not have to be voluntary.


edit: Also, that's the only source definition I find that says 'sacrifice'.

It's just not an absolute. Jettison can happen deliberately for a productive purpose as well. Original meaning was simply 'to throw'.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#68 - 2013-04-13 19:47:50 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:


by limited i mean "my 2nd hulk cycle is about to finish, and my orca is slightly out of range".


People still mine in Hulks?
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#69 - 2013-04-13 19:53:15 UTC
What CCP are doing is to kill solo play in eve and cater more for blob play so we have to buy more than one subscription. Solo play in eve is dying.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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ISD Alliance
#70 - 2013-04-13 20:15:21 UTC
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