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[Proposal ] The Removal of Ice from High Security Systems

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Partsking
New Eden Marshals Service
#81 - 2011-10-21 16:06:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Partsking
Mentally-challenged idea. Even thinking about spelling out the reasons why it's mentally-challenged is making me mentally-challenged.

Edit: Damn filter
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2011-10-21 18:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Partsking wrote:
Mentally-challenged idea. Even thinking about spelling out the reasons why it's mentally-challenged is making me mentally-challenged.

Edit: Damn filter


It is because nobody uses the word "******" correctly (including me) and those that call other people "retards" upset the "retards" and to keep the "retards" from crying other "retards" ban the word "******".

It is a cruel never ending cycle.

It looks like the plural of ****** is not a banned word though. Isn't that ********? lol

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Regil Rikune
Delta Imperium
#83 - 2011-10-31 07:30:27 UTC
I got a little off the wall idea for all you Null-secers that want to remove Ice from High-sec. I’ll trade you all the bots and ice for your lovely supply and access to moongoo.Idea This way, you all will still have your isk faucet and can have full control over your Cap-ship jumping, jump bridges, and POS warfare, and we get something that doesn’t take a fleet of bots to control.

Suggested changes:
ArrowRemove all Ice from 0.4-1.0 space.
ArrowRemove all Moon Minerals from 0.0-0.3
ArrowAdd Moon Minerals and the ability to mine Moon Minerals to 0.4-0.7
ArrowQuality of Moon Materials goes up as security goes up.

Pros:
ArrowLess “bot’s” in High-sec.
ArrowLess total Null-sec control over the game.
ArrowHigh-sec access to a bigger part of T2 Production.
ArrowKeeps the status quo of High-sec and Null-sec.
ArrowBetter risk for reward in Ice mining.

Cons:
ArrowMove “bot’s” in Null-sec.
ArrowWar in Null-sec can have a bigger affect on WH and T2 production.
ArrowLess “solo” play available for players.
ArrowCorps will need to grind to gain access to “top tier” moons of 0.7 space.

If you people in Null-sec want to take sand from me I’ll get my Tonka truck and take some of you. Like it or leave my half of the sandbox to me.

Regil



Roldanus
Black Anvil Industries
#84 - 2011-10-31 23:15:05 UTC
Regil Rikune wrote:
I got a little off the wall idea for all you Null-secers that want to remove Ice from High-sec. I’ll trade you all the bots and ice for your lovely supply and access to moongoo.Idea This way, you all will still have your isk faucet and can have full control over your Cap-ship jumping, jump bridges, and POS warfare, and we get something that doesn’t take a fleet of bots to control.

Suggested changes:
ArrowRemove all Ice from 0.4-1.0 space.
ArrowRemove all Moon Minerals from 0.0-0.3
ArrowAdd Moon Minerals and the ability to mine Moon Minerals to 0.4-0.7
ArrowQuality of Moon Materials goes up as security goes up.

Pros:
ArrowLess “bot’s” in High-sec.
ArrowLess total Null-sec control over the game.
ArrowHigh-sec access to a bigger part of T2 Production.
ArrowKeeps the status quo of High-sec and Null-sec.
ArrowBetter risk for reward in Ice mining.

Cons:
ArrowMove “bot’s” in Null-sec.
ArrowWar in Null-sec can have a bigger affect on WH and T2 production.
ArrowLess “solo” play available for players.
ArrowCorps will need to grind to gain access to “top tier” moons of 0.7 space.

If you people in Null-sec want to take sand from me I’ll get my Tonka truck and take some of you. Like it or leave my half of the sandbox to me.

Regil





Great post.

Endovior
PFU Consortium
#85 - 2011-10-31 23:38:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Endovior
Moon goo in hisec is an interesting idea, actually.

It wouldn't at all be fair to implement at present, of course, given that the wardec mechanics have been totally nerfed by 'decshield' type dodges... but it'd be kind of cool if there were limited amounts of valuable moongoo available to hisec corporations. They'd need good standings with the relevant empire, and the usual LP-based starbase charters (possibly including more expensive LP-based 'mining permits' as well?)... and then, provided a goo-bearing moon was available in their part of hisec, they'd be able to mine it. Most likely, they'd fill up fast, and the good moons would be constantly under wardec... thus introducing hisec corporations into the basic idea of sov warfare, but with training wheels on. Given a revamp of the wardec system (formalization of mercenary contracts would be an absolute minimum here), then we'd see some decent wars in hisec, which can only be a plus... and once people are starting to get used to the idea of fighting to attack/defend valuable moongoo POS's, it's only a short leap to heading out into lowsec to grab even more valuable POS spaces, or even into nullsec outright.

I'd go on, but this is really an idea which deserves it's own thread.
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#86 - 2011-11-01 12:09:19 UTC
ANYTHING that removes ice from high sec as it is wil have a devastating effect on the economy. You take it away from where the people live that are willing to harvest it and you'll find they'll simply harvest something else rather than go where they simply don't want to be. It's really that simple. Drastic supply reductions in ice fuels will crush everything from research to inventions to T3 production. High sec and wormhole pos's would be brutalized. People would leave, simple as that.

It may turn out good for a few, but it would be bad for Eve. Real bad.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2011-11-01 13:26:28 UTC
But...but...but...if we don't remove Ice from Highsec and give it to Nullsec how will the people in Nullsec possibly make any ISK at all?

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

/sarcasm

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