Player Features and Ideas Discussion

lmao
Abaddon has exactly same PG as Mealstorm, while 1400 and sheild tank requires much less PG Than Beam/Armor
Just saying.

I'm stealing from reddit, but with the most recent changes, apparently Tachyons will be 1-2% above the PWG on the Abaddon. Not too different from 1400s on the Mael, though it'd be nice to be slightly under instead of over, of course. 15% would make the Abaddon much better at fitting Tachs than the Mael at fitting 1400s- though whether that's good or bad is up to CCP of course.

I didn't do the math, so I'm not sure on the numbers.

Not as many pretty lights.

Good change, no complaints...for once.

Can you do the same thing for medium beams and medium rails please?

Not I, you just gave me what I asked for .. light at the end of the tunnel. Life with current ammo/guns will carry on, but now I/we know that it will at least be discussed at a later date as time allows.

PS: I used Ytterbium♥Fozzie when it was just the two, how the hell do I account for the menage-a-trois now that you have joined their merry band? Fozzie-gets- Rise-out-of-Ytterbium? or Fozzie-gives-Ytterbium-a-Rise?

You misread his post and misunderstood his meaning I think. Scorch has been so good for us (laser users) that it has allowed us to interact with (ie. kill them) the people around us like fully able folk, hence the term "crutch" (leg-braces might be more accurate but not not as short or globally understood).
If you are a regularly laser user then think about what ammo you pack when going out the door and ask yourself if that is not a sad state of affairs. Six or seven out of 10 crystals (T1+T2) are so rarely used that one could remove them from game entirely without more than a handful of people even noticing.

Scorch is so good that a kiting trend emerged, using ships that has no business kiting such as the shield Harbinger and Omen (old) culminating with the *First in History* Amarr ship designed specifically for kiting and nothing but, the Omen (new).

Could easily sustain a reduction in tracking or damage without hurting much, provided options exist to change to when the hurt does come .. that is what a crystal/gun revamp could do, a revamp that has been all but promised for the next years (ie.Soonish™ (further out than Soon™)).

Still need less cap use. Especially with our main battleship sniper platform / ratting ship getting seriously HOSED on cap -- You reduced the cap on the Apoc AND killed its bonus to cap use. Lasers need a comparable cap reduction, including pulse.

Either that or buff the Cap recharger quite a bit... already have to run 2 rigs and 3 cap rechargers to make it a viable PvE ship.

You too young to remember the awesomeness that was the Laser Myrmidon?

This is an effort to alleviate some of the problems that arise by axing that universally hated laser cap "bonus", ships designed for lasers generally have stronger grids and larger caps and some were struggling even with the -50% bonus. So by all means, if you have to cap/grid to burn and the slots to drive them then go ahead (Laser myrm needed a medium injector for guns alone ).
Changes would have to massively greater than this to create a scenario where lasers can be swapped for racial guns willy-nilly like we have seen (and still see) with projectiles and a lesser extent blasters.

@CCP Rise Thank you for addressing this, its better than what I had feared.

Supported.

as a large beam user, i am selfishly pleased with the change. on the other hand, from my experience, large hybrids, especially rails, suffer from very similar issues. you should take a closer look at the relationship between the two.

Or at least take into consideration an individualization iteration after everything is balanced, building up on the established solid foundation.