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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#21 - 2013-04-13 02:11:03 UTC
Tbh this isnt far from what larger alliances sometimes do to get fights. Expecting the spai, wanting and expecting intel to get back to someone on a roam for a fight.


Youll get blobbed sometimes sure. Other times youll have an interesting trip through space.

Chandaris had it right though. Fit a frig or destroyer and get into Faction Warfare space and warp to the complexes youll see and find a fight that way as well. Its fairly active and your bound to find fights that way as well.

Good luck.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-04-13 04:42:45 UTC
Thor Kerrigan wrote:
Yeah well you were not online when I joined the channel. Hopefully I can make it in the top 10.


Invitation proffered and accepted. Ignominious defeat. Flames. Debris. Counsel patiently offered and accepted. On to refit #3 of the night. Gratitude to my hosts.

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Dread SinJin
Heisenberg Productions
#23 - 2013-04-13 05:35:28 UTC
I didn't even make it past the first sentence, so BIO YOUR ACCT. go back to ps3 or WoW , we don't need you here
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-04-13 06:43:45 UTC
Dread SinJin wrote:
I didn't even make it past the first sentence, so BIO YOUR ACCT. go back to ps3 or WoW , we don't need you here


Your post history seems to reveal a trend. At the risk of being trolled out by a one sentence, none reading wonder... I played WoW briefly, enough to max it out. Dint like it. I have never once played a console game. There is no doubt I am not needed here. Would suck if I were.

I will mark you down as 'not interested' then, shall I? Should you change your mind and wish to link me a fight location in PvPilgrimage of course I will accept if not otherwise committed. I cannot promise a 'good fight' as I am a complete noob, but I will show up and fight.



Went through several frigates and learned a lot tonight. Thank you for the invitations and fights. Much improved game experience for me. Hopefully I will be a more challenging opponent as time unfolds.

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Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-04-13 08:47:36 UTC
You're going to get blobbed at one point. Have fun with that.
Rukia Shiina
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#26 - 2013-04-13 08:55:00 UTC
Inb4 Covert Cyno
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-04-13 09:01:59 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
You're going to get blobbed at one point. Have fun with that.


If by blobbed you mean I am going to be be invited into a situation against overwhelming odds, then yes. Ambushed, tricked, lied to, etc. Of course. I am under the impression that is in great part the nature of the game. Currently one other pilot flying 'my lil pony' and throwing glitter is overwhelming odds, so I don't see that it matters. I am dead in all these encounters anyway. I am fighting, but i am dead. If you mean an actual blob with hundreds of ships, capitals and such and someone thinks it would be funny to drop me a link in the PvPilgrimage channel and call me into their roam? How epic would that be? 1 v 100? Yippee. Short, but all my fights are short.

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bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
#28 - 2013-04-13 09:20:34 UTC
Shao Huang wrote:
PvP Pilgrimage
...

If you somehow actually lose to me I will at least strongly consider podding you, because if you lose to me you should quit the game.

...

I'lol'ed

Good luck with your endeavor. Could see an easy'er way of getting a fight than flying 30 jumps into null but, hey! It's your journey in Eve Online. NOT I - NOT ANYONE else, can travel that road for you, You must travel it for yourself.
- Walt Whitman

Someone though, should set you up to steam it. Could be fun to Watch.
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#29 - 2013-04-13 11:47:11 UTC
While reading OP i was reminded of Yoshikawa's Musashi, which i read as a teen, then twice more as an adult.

I suggest never honoring 1v1s or ransoms, always kill anyone you can, even if they ask you not to politely, even if their ship is afk at a gate and named PVE DO NOT SHOOT.
If this way suits your temperament, enjoy. I did it for most of a year in Thrashers before joining up with groups of people. Look at killmails for what killed you, every loss is a lesson.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Dread SinJin
Heisenberg Productions
#30 - 2013-04-13 12:38:48 UTC
this guy sure is fun, he is very cute and he will learn about eve very soon.
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-04-13 12:42:13 UTC
Awesome idea.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-04-13 14:54:56 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
While reading OP i was reminded of Yoshikawa's Musashi, which i read as a teen, then twice more as an adult.

I suggest never honoring 1v1s or ransoms, always kill anyone you can, even if they ask you not to politely, even if their ship is afk at a gate and named PVE DO NOT SHOOT.
If this way suits your temperament, enjoy. I did it for most of a year in Thrashers before joining up with groups of people. Look at killmails for what killed you, every loss is a lesson.


Ahah! I am specifically thinking of some sort of improbable train wreck of Musashi and Don Quixote.

The mind is a curious thing. For someone who has labled their ship PVE DO NOT SHOOT, the mind will first read and create the perfect scenario for SHOOT. It is then a great deal of trouble to actively provide the negative. Ransom is a far, far distant option currently not on the table. Thank you for the counsel.

My first invitation was 22 jumps. I have yet to be invited deep into someone's player held territory and am looking forward to that, should it happen.

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-04-13 16:00:50 UTC
Sounds as though you are resigned to the fact that you are going to die. You will not learn much from your pilgrimage if you are simply throwing yourself of the cliff like a lemming. Particularly as intel is often the key to winning fights.

But, whatever floats your boat I guess.
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-04-13 17:07:07 UTC
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Sounds as though you are resigned to the fact that you are going to die. You will not learn much from your pilgrimage if you are simply throwing yourself of the cliff like a lemming. Particularly as intel is often the key to winning fights.

But, whatever floats your boat I guess.


I am not resigned. I am however realistic, let's say. This does not prevent me from researching the source of the invitation in order to work out what they might be flying and such while I meditate on my immanent demise enroute. Though I am learning, reading etc., information does not constitute intelligence. I might be able to figure it is likely that my host will be flying such and such. I have played for about two weeks. That information does not mean a lot to me in terms of translation to practice as of yet, it is therefore only data and not intelligence. For experienced pilots all of this is internalized such that they probably 'see' a hull and act immediately in a way that is at least likely to be appropriate to fight dynamics... At the very least they make an immediate fight or evade determination, and likely many much more sophisticated ones. None of this is true for me, independent of anyone's belief that it should be.

It is not without historical precedent to consider oneself dead prior to conflict and often yields a counter-intuitive result.

Also... Perhaps I am burning away any tendency to become self identified with pixelated possessions and the felt 'need' to protect those as some sort of survival imperative... i.e. 'natural' tendencies toward risk aversion, that while having a certain sort of positive intent, also serve to limit learning.

Then again maybe space lasers, flames and explosions are appealing regardless of whose.

So hard to say.

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-04-13 18:54:59 UTC
Ok, I think I understand your method here. Perhaps you can use this experience as a spring board onto better things. I think I would suggest for you that at some point you grab a covert ship or force recon, that way you can roam space observing fights which you pick up using the dscanner and probes and other various intel sources, I think you would learn a lot this way. Also use Eve Kill to observe the ship layouts which various opponents have been using as that will help you analyse after a fight.

Good luck with your pilgrimage.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#36 - 2013-04-13 18:56:30 UTC
Gulboy wrote:
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Why not just join a good corp and get them to teach you how to pvp?

That's too mainstream; booring Big smile


Are are you an intergalactic hipster?
bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
#37 - 2013-04-13 20:00:21 UTC
Shao Huang wrote:
Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Sounds as though you are resigned to the fact that you are going to die. You will not learn much from your pilgrimage if you are simply throwing yourself of the cliff like a lemming. Particularly as intel is often the key to winning fights.

But, whatever floats your boat I guess.


I am not resigned. I am however realistic, let's say. This does not prevent me from researching the source of the invitation in order to work out what they might be flying and such while I meditate on my immanent demise enroute. Though I am learning, reading etc., information does not constitute intelligence. I might be able to figure it is likely that my host will be flying such and such. I have played for about two weeks. That information does not mean a lot to me in terms of translation to practice as of yet, it is therefore only data and not intelligence. For experienced pilots all of this is internalized such that they probably 'see' a hull and act immediately in a way that is at least likely to be appropriate to fight dynamics... At the very least they make an immediate fight or evade determination, and likely many much more sophisticated ones. None of this is true for me, independent of anyone's belief that it should be.

It is not without historical precedent to consider oneself dead prior to conflict and often yields a counter-intuitive result.

Also... Perhaps I am burning away any tendency to become self identified with pixelated possessions and the felt 'need' to protect those as some sort of survival imperative... i.e. 'natural' tendencies toward risk aversion, that while having a certain sort of positive intent, also serve to limit learning.

Then again maybe space lasers, flames and explosions are appealing regardless of whose.

So hard to say.

I think you might have just reached the pinnacle for intelligent writing in those forums. Shocked

Quote:
Shao Huangs bio
Survival of the fittest is based on assumptions of niche and natural selection leading to a beleif that evolution is primarily competitive in nature. The common view of this, loosely applied to social evolution as well, depends on two things.
1- understanding 'niche' from a reductionist point of view
2- treating natural selection as a variable

If niche is understood from a systems point of view and natural selection is treated as a constant, rather a variable, it changes everything.

An often used misconception about Eve Online is, that Eve is all about the survival of the fittest and that, somehow, intelligens has something to do with that. The truth is though, many a time you will find that, in Eve, survival of the fittest often mean; Who has the most fun. When people stop having fun in this game, they stop logging in. I'm not sure how that fits with your theory but I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun. Big smile
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-04-14 06:31:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Shao Huang
bbb2020 wrote:
I think you might have just reached the pinnacle for intelligent writing in those forums. Shocked


All downhill from here no doubt. What?

One invite tonight. Managed to find other creative ways to lose ships.

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