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FW missions guide & fits - there is NO hard mission in FW

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Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#1 - 2013-04-11 17:35:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Apelacja
O/

Bcs i heard many times about FW missions which are impossible to do or hard to do in bomber......and thats all is a bullshit.
Below are the standard fits for bombers for all factions. I`ve done them all so feel free to ask if smthing is unclear.

Overall all missions are easily doable with a well skilled bomber and sest of +1 % implants. When u put 3% implants u can speed up a process. Missions split for 2 types:
- u need to kill structure or industrials.
- u need to kill a bs.
- collect item

Structure or industrial ( long except mission : "supply interdiction"):
- just a matter of time and a metter of your dps.

Kill d`at Bs (short):
- due to high speed of some bses u need target navigation predicition at lvl 5 and good dps to kill some of them. ( maximum in one mission per faction)

Collect item
- Don`t do it.....and take only if u cant refuse mission.


How do i collect missions?

- add all agents to your route. Optimize it sitting on the start station. ( your missioning base). Coppy your setting from eve folder. When u want to make another run just coppy back your saved settings. Before u undock delete stations u cant dock in.
When u have collected all the 14-15 missions ( i usualy dont take missions from agents in 0.6 + ss systems) add all mission location to route manager and optimize. usually there are less then 12 locations so it should be optimized in normal time.


Skills i should have ( if u dont have them dont worry, that list is only valid when u want to make all missions ):
- navigation - well... all lvl 4 is often vital for many fits.
- engeneering -> shield - it is a base when u want to make amarr gallente missions. lvl 4 min
- awu lvl 4
- missiles - all lvl 4, support skills at lvl 5

FAQ:

- How long does the full run take?
- around 3 h when u have well skilled bomber. When u fly at "dead time", so empty locals and nobody disturbing u u can do it much faster.

- How many accounts can i use?
- 3 is an optimum, 2 when u are in enemy space. However thoose are active. So u can hold as many as u can operate just flying to the next mission ssytem or sitting cloaked in space.

- Why do u put one t2 rig in all fits?
- Because they are rly cheap. The cost to make any of small t2 rig is less then 8 mio. If u have troubles to buy them cheap build them by yourself or place buy order in jita. And often they speed up the mission by 10-15%.

- Do i need maxed skills?
- not rly maxed....but when u need range i will suggest u to level all support skills to lvl 5. also warheads upgrade and torpedo specialization to level 4 . IT MAKES DIFFRENCE.

- Wchich faction has the lowest requirements ?
- no doubt minmatars.....u can do missions even with t1 fit. However if u can select missions and do only 4 of them amarr missions are doable to.

- I cant end mission bs has a crazy tank....
- try to turn off and on again your mwd/ab....npc sometimes will slow down and then start mwd again. NPC behave is another
story....

- Someone is trying to gank me over and over.
- Just pi....just fly further and move back to that system when u finish your run
Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#2 - 2013-04-11 17:35:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Apelacja
Minmatar (Farmatar):


Pros/Cons:

- small area - u need less time to fly between mission systems
- u can use t1 torps.
- reprisal mission - one of the fast missions but as long as u dont do 500 dps u can never end it . All is about speed of the bs npc and its high resistances to EM. ( 50 % around however other factions ressitances are from 10-35 % against their bombers dmg ). When u reach 600 dps problem doesn`t exist.
- u can pimp your bomber to 650 dps with +3% implants, what is important in longer missions where u need to kill 6 industrials or structure.


standard purif fit:
[Purifier, Purifier fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst II
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I


if u want more agile or have no skills :


[Purifier, minm]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

1MN Afterburner - t2 or deadspace
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst II
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I



However in that fit u need to remeber 2 things:
- buying gisti afterburner will help u in "supply interdiction" mission. Also when u fly faster u make "leathal strike", "the cost of all hubris" missions faster.
- if u do less then 500 dps u will get problem in "reprisal " mission
Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#3 - 2013-04-11 17:35:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Apelacja
Caldari:


Pros/Cons:
- big area - more time u spend flying then doing mission. If u operate only one account u will get bored to death.
- "the cost of all hubris" mission - u need some dps to **** the target here.....so when u have low skills it can be a problem.
- not bad npces resistances.
- longer time to kill structures

[Manticore, Manticore fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I

Tips:
- buy +3% implants otherwise u will make the "cost of all ..." 2 times longer. However when u have all skils at 5 and torpedo spec at lvl 4 it is enough with 1% implants.


Tactic:
-Keep your target in 120 km and u will not be ecmed. U can turn off your mwd at that range. dampers (ewar) of npc has a true range around 80-90 km. The further u are the less likely is be damped. Why 3 times SeBo then? There is a small probability that u will get ewar`ed by 1 npc and with 3 SeBos your range still will be 140 km. However it happens when u are closer then 90 km to them. Usualy i need only to retarget my target 1-2 times in whole run ( 14-15 missions). Overall it is a good results.
- When u fly in into mission dont just hit orbit button......first runaway direction should be done manually ( after few missions u will known npces spawns)
Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#4 - 2013-04-11 17:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Apelacja
Gallente:

Pros/Cons:
- big area - more time u spend flying then doing mission. If u operate only one account u will get bored to death.
- jammers..... They make the life more difficult and u need very good range to stay outside of npc ewars, also missile range implant + 3% is somehow helpfull and of course all support skills to lvl 5.
- not bad npces resistances.
- longer time to kill structures

[Manticore, Manticore fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Defence slot - shield extender or shield amplifier
Defence slot - shield extender or shield amplifier - when u feel u need it and want to put implant

Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I




Tips:
- all missions are doable with maxed skills and + 3% implants. They take similar time liek caldari missions for me. However it can be diffrent with worse skills and need to be tested with someone
- shield amplifier can be replaced with hardner however hardners need cap and...cpu. Not a good deal overall as long as u can buy domi faction amp for 7-10 mio ( 17 cpu).

Tactic:
- like caldari mission. Keep more then 100 km range if u can . In that case range is most important due to heavy jam. And each time u get jammed u loose time. U cant fit SeBo`s like in gallente missions so just get the best range u can and stay at it. Often it is not worth to turn off mwd here so get navigation and cap skills to lvl 4
- When u fly in into mission dont just hit orbit button......first runaway direction should be done manually ( after few missions u will known npces spawns)
Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#5 - 2013-04-11 17:36:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Apelacja
amarr:

Pros/Cons:

- small area - u need less time to fly between mission systems
- bses resistances - explo dmg is a big hole so u can kill each mission bs with 400 dps.....
- longer time to kill structures

[Hound, houng]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive
Small Shield Extender II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Nova Javelin Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I

tips:
- u can further pimp the dps but....due to holes in resistances it is not rly needed. And expensive

Tactic:
- this fit need some atention. Especially when the next waves of npces will spawn with TPs. However its not like with caldari/gallente u can stay at 90 km and nothing will hit u. The only problem is to stay in range bcs hound is to fast. Dont try it without deadspace mwd , your sig can kill u.
- i have done all missions in it, however i already known them from diffrent factions.
- When u fly in into mission dont just hit orbit button......first runaway direction should be done manually ( after few missions u will known npces spawns). Otherwise u can land inside spawned npc and they will TP u hardly. u will most probably survive but it`s just not pro ;).


[Hound, houng copyji]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner
Domination Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Small Shield Extender II

Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

Tactic:
- like with any other AB fits. However u need to stay tuned in missions with industrials due to some rly fast npces. I dont like that fit bcs u can die from npces if u dont pay attention. some ppl still use it but when u operate more then 2 accounts it can kill u. Also u need maxed navigation skills here.
7'62 SKS
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-04-11 17:38:45 UTC
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kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-04-11 20:53:16 UTC
please remove your post OP
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#8 - 2013-04-11 22:07:28 UTC
OK - 2 mission threads in my trolling section of the forums this morning.
Hopefully CCP will move them to the correct sections of the forums.


To the topic:
You could do all that and use stealth bombers as many players do until they realize-

They can go in a Battlecruiser, just shoot at the **** in the mission without micro managing all while watching stuff on you tube and not giving a fuk.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#9 - 2013-04-12 01:44:43 UTC
Why would I need to mission when I have a portable ATM machine? aka [IbanezLaney]
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#10 - 2013-04-12 04:18:40 UTC
Sean Parisi wrote:
Why would I need to mission when I have a portable ATM machine? aka [IbanezLaney]




I'm sure that during breakfast I told Mrs Parisi not to give you any of that money.

She worked very hard for that.
It's good when you see someone enjoying their work.

Big smile
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#11 - 2013-04-12 12:32:24 UTC
nice, finally i can start to do missions.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#12 - 2013-04-12 14:36:15 UTC
Oh man, I no longer need my nano Cyclone to do missions. Thank you so very much!

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

Ginger Barbarella
#13 - 2013-04-12 16:44:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
Oh, and ignore the fact that any of those fits will get splatted by the neutral gangs and opposing faction peeveepee fits you WILL come across. Just ignore that.

Let's also ignore the whole "battlecruiser getting thru a gate that won't take battlecruisers" thing...

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Dancing with Shades
State Writ
#14 - 2013-04-12 18:47:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Dancing with Shades
big lol for BCes.....u never flied any it seems.

Imo valid fits. However u dont need so much tank for amarr/gallente. Just skill up shield skills and put one passive hardner. more then enough. In amarr AB fit i will change for gisti- A type otherwise u can be catched sometimes by npc. Or u need to fly a little with ab cloack trick.


If u get catched in SB u are dumb and eve is not for u.... or u never heard about dscan;)
Rezig Huruta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-04-12 22:42:11 UTC
On a separate topic, though related to this one:

Someone has stolen all of your Yo's. In an odd turn of events, it made you misspell "you" repeatedly. I would hasten to find the bandit immediately! Your internet credibility is hanging on the balance!
Jeann Valjean
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-04-15 17:39:17 UTC
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt."
- Abe Lincoln / Mark Twain / someone else entirely.

Before reading OP's post, I never realized that traipsing about solo in lowsec was such a breeze! You and Greedy Globin on EN should team up... in silence.