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Name TooShort Keeptyping
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-04-12 19:28:37 UTC
Hi,

I recently got a hold of some Blueprints which are not in the market or in contracts. In this scenario, how does one determine the price without taking someone's word?

I found this website in the Science and Industry Resources but I don't understand it since I've never done any blueprint research.

With theoretical Blueprint ME and Manufacturer PE of 3, its a gain of 26mil per item. Do multiply that figure by the total maximum number of items that blueprint can produce?

The blueprint is
Large Bay Loading Accelerator II
Star Killer14
Core World Imperium
#2 - 2013-04-12 20:16:21 UTC
The best thing to do is see what one item costs to biuld. I use Jita sell prices usaully unless there is a major difference in buy and sell order prices. Then see what it sells for and see how much someone will make in profit on each run. Then decide on how much of the profit you want for the blueprint. Finally multiply by the number of remains runs and that is your price. It might be good to look at the volume and competition in the market for the item as that can affect the price someone will pay for it sometimes.
Haulie Berry
#3 - 2013-04-12 20:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
That blueprint only exists in BPC form, so the ME range is going to be -4 to 0. You'll never see it as high as 3.

It is not rare and can be readily made by inventors. The 2 run ME/PE 0 prints are slightly rarer, but still not particularly rare.

The price you could get for the print on contract is going to depend on the number of runs on the print and the ME of the print.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#4 - 2013-04-14 10:59:13 UTC
General rule of thumb. All prices are the average of the highest buy order and the lowest sell order in your local hub, and assume a willing but not desparate buyer and Production Efficiency 5.

BPC value per run = item value - material cost per run - (# hours to produce the item per run)*150k ISK if building it requires common skills. Up the time factor to 200k ISK if it requires uncommon skills most industry toons don't have at the requisite level (Plasma Physics 4) or 250k+ if it requires really specialised skills (Battlship Construction 5).

Note this is negative for pretty much any rig that never used in PVP and seldom used by carebears.

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#5 - 2013-04-16 18:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Haulie Berry wrote:
That blueprint only exists in BPC form, so the ME range is going to be -4 to 0. You'll never see it as high as 3.

It is not rare and can be readily made by inventors. The 2 run ME/PE 0 prints are slightly rarer, but still not particularly rare.

The price you could get for the print on contract is going to depend on the number of runs on the print and the ME of the print.

Sorry to break it to you but BPC's dropped in radar sites usually have positive ME and PE values.Only invented BPC's have negative values. this has nothing to do with T2 BPO's, but that rare BPC's including some T2 BPC's do drop in radar sites.
Haulie Berry
#6 - 2013-04-16 20:49:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Haulie Berry wrote:
That blueprint only exists in BPC form, so the ME range is going to be -4 to 0. You'll never see it as high as 3.

It is not rare and can be readily made by inventors. The 2 run ME/PE 0 prints are slightly rarer, but still not particularly rare.

The price you could get for the print on contract is going to depend on the number of runs on the print and the ME of the print.

Sorry to break it to you but BPC's dropped in radar sites usually have positive ME and PE values.Only invented BPC's have negative values. this has nothing to do with T2 BPO's, but that rare BPC's including some T2 BPC's do drop in radar sites.


K boss, phone me when you see a T2 rig BPC with an ME over 0. Lol

Hell, phone me when you get a T2 BPC out of a radar site that isn't a smartbomb.

If the OP is lucky, they are holding an ME 0 BPC out of a mag site.

If they are unlucky, they are holding an invented one with -1 to -4 ME.
J'Ribs
Zepthanui
#7 - 2013-04-17 19:42:02 UTC
Above is almost right. I get t2 rig BPCs in Radars all the time.

But... it is possible to have a positive ME in a t2 Rig BPC. There is at least one T2 BPO given out in the lottery and it has been researched.

That's all I know, however.

Haulie Berry
#8 - 2013-04-17 19:56:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
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There is at least one T2 BPO given out in the lottery and it has been researched.


That seems pretty unlikely, since the last lottery BPOs were put into the pool before rigs were introduced (the frequently rejected ones continued to float around for a while, though). IIRC the last round or several were pretty much drones and ammo. The existence of a T2 rig BPO would pretty certainly be classified as dev-cheats.

Filing under pics or it didn't happen.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2013-04-17 23:30:36 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Sorry to break it to you but BPC's dropped in radar sites usually have positive ME and PE values.Only invented BPC's have negative values. this has nothing to do with T2 BPO's, but that rare BPC's including some T2 BPC's do drop in radar sites.


The ones that drop are 0/0.
J'Ribs
Zepthanui
#10 - 2013-04-18 15:57:42 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Quote:
There is at least one T2 BPO given out in the lottery and it has been researched.


That seems pretty unlikely, since the last lottery BPOs were put into the pool before rigs were introduced (the frequently rejected ones continued to float around for a while, though). IIRC the last round or several were pretty much drones and ammo. The existence of a T2 rig BPO would pretty certainly be classified as dev-cheats.

Filing under pics or it didn't happen.



I've asked the guy who told me about it. He doesn't remember telling me about it!

So yeah. I'll go with the above.
Name TooShort Keeptyping
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-04-22 15:11:24 UTC
Quote:


The ones that drop are 0/0.


I can confirm that all the drops I've had are 0/0