EVE General Discussion

So CCP it is not just a few people wanting Avatar based gameplay it is the vast majority of players, ex-players and potential new players.

I would love to come to Iceland just to ask each and every dev what their thoughts were on Avatar stuff. I bet they would love to see it happen as well, I mean who would not want to make their game even better.

Please stop listening to these died in the wool fans who only want spaceship development as they are NOT representative of the player base. You can hire more devs to work on Avatar stuff and keep up the painfully slow spaceship game improvements as well.

My feelings of WiS, are kind of on the fence.


Part of me says, ohh kewl I can walk around and talk with people and the social aspect of it is very nice! Its a good feeling in games like WoW when your entire guild shows up and people are all there dancing or whatever (please no dancing or jumping in eve though please)... on the secound hand though...


What valid game play does this bring to eve out side of the social aspect, which is already very engrained in EvE even if all you get to see is a wallet photo of the pilot on a regular basis.


If WiS brings real game play to eve then yes I would throw all of my money at a kick starter to do it...


Ideas to bring real game play to WiS:

1.) Customizable player housing. This draws people to games like moths to a flame, everyone loves their own chill pad. However, there needs to be a reason to customize your house... can we produce something there? Similar to the way the FF online games let you grow "greens" to do various things with.

2.) Empire building tools - Allow players who want to focus on empire building (and not freaking ships in space) to be able to do so from their station. Can we see how our fleets are moving? Can we issue directive to the FC there? Can we see enemy ships that have been "Spotted" by our scouts... Can we see how our poses/stations/pocos are doing? Allow empire builders to manage their infastructor and "empire" from within a station. I am really surprised that we have such a vastness of technology including the ability to jump light years away via a glorified space flare, and yet we dont have holo maps of ally movement or spotted enemies? SIlly if you ask me.

3.) Allow us to mingle with other people... all these ideas have been presented all ready but the ideas that really shine are things like mini games.

4.) Put emergent game play to the WiS system, but allowing things like explorers to get out of their ships at sites and explore the inside of them. Hack stuff and what not... see the intro video to dust to get a good idea of what I am speaking of.

5.) Allow us to hang with our DUST bunnies... but still this should be in conjunction with the above ideas... aka let them gamble too..


Just give us a freaking reason to get out of our ships other then to wander around a bleak station, and use interfaces that are already much easier to use from the NEO Comm....


I really like the idea of adding an avatar system to EVE because its well needed. I dont care what anyone says, it is needed for this game to grow. I have to date in almost 9 years have tried to get a lot of people into eve, at least 10 of them have really liked the game, but did not want to just be a "ship" giving them a reason to not be a ship is good...... We want more players, we want our galaxy to grow, and we want new empires to rise and fall. We say ohh the game is growing cause we have 500k subs, but how many of those are truelly new players, and not just some dude mining with his 5 or 6 alts, or doing incursions...

I feel like eve has not "grown" in many years now, sure we see fresh blood every once in a while, but people get tired of looking just like everyone else. As humans we need to be able to relate to our avatars and eve just lacks that. It takes a special kind of person to be able to ignore it as well.


Simply put, eve is finding its self becoming stale... and not to me. Sure I have played a long time and I will always love eve... but the game its self.. feels like its not "getting anywhere". The developers are ignoring a much needed part of making a popular game.

Guys the new expansion is coming, and that covers "ships in space". I for one, however am getting tired of everything being about "ships in space" I know I am playing a space ship game, but with dust coming, and all these other changes. I think our community as a whole needs to reflect on what is really going on here... and that we are now becoming part of a "Virtual universe" un like any other in existence right now and that we are missing out in a lot of possible awesome game play, and for those of you who are into it, new ways to make people QQ....

Doll house in space.

To be 100% completely honest, I would rather have more customisation options in the forms of clothes, looks, make-up etc. than WiS.

But then again I am a carebear who afk mines and has nothing else to do but stare at his avatar all day.

All I want out of eve is meaningful gameplay I dont care if its mounts, stations, ships, or whatever... MEANINGFUL reasons for me to push the buttons... or ill just go play WoW

heck just give us DUST in stations.

That would be quite a sign of good will, but CCP already defused the issue in 2012 and they don't need to deal with the potential wrath of unorganized and mostly unsubbed avatar lovers.

Sleeve tattoos? Never seen again. Unreleased NEx items? Some released to gather dust at FW LP stores, most still unreleased. Catsuits? Errr... were they even real? Racial blending? SAY WHAT?

CCP's abandoment of avatars is complete. They even managed to break them with the new and fuglier skin tones (GIVE US OUR RED SKIN BACK YOU DASTARDLY RACISTS!) -huh, sorry for the intermission - and some old issues like squint eyes have never been commented since Incursion. Avatars are out of the ball even for iteration.

I'm just waiting for games like Star Citizen and ELITE: Dangerous to be released. Let EVE be all about ships. I'll have awesome ships and avatar play in these other games.