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Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS

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Frying Doom
#41 - 2013-04-12 10:44:30 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS.
I am confused. Where does that leave me? Ugh

I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation.

Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted?

Blink

Yes, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity but your eternal punishment will be less than what the apathetic get.

Thank you for voting.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#42 - 2013-04-12 10:47:03 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS.
I am confused. Where does that leave me? Ugh

I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation.

Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted?

Blink


It's OK to vote for candidates from null-sec blocs if that's what you choose to do. I believe Mr Nefarius' point is that those who are not voting at all shouldn't kid themselves as to what the practical effect will be.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Dave stark
#43 - 2013-04-12 10:52:41 UTC
i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-04-12 10:53:12 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS.
I am confused. Where does that leave me? Ugh

I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation.

Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted?

Blink

Yes, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity but your eternal punishment will be less than what the apathetic get.

Thank you for voting.

Lol

If I am going to hell, I would prefer to get there on my own merits... or lack thereof.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-04-12 11:09:19 UTC

Voting for null sec candidates doesn't mean bad things will happen, it actually means you're voting for people with a keen understand of game mechanics and will stop CCP doing bad things and hopefully get them to do good things like POS revision, income changes, ship balancing etc. Things that affect all areas of EVE.

You guys should take off the tin foil hats and look at the candidates objectively and realise that historically speaking, apart from Darius III, null sec block candidates on the CSM have been a positive influence.
Frying Doom
#46 - 2013-04-12 11:11:25 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lets face it: NOT VOTING IN CSM8 IS A VOTE FOR NULL SEC BLOCKS.
I am confused. Where does that leave me? Ugh

I voted and one of my choices was Malcanis and another was a member of the Goonswarm Federation.

Obviously I am evil for voting for someone from the null sec block, especially the demonic Goonswarm, but would I have been less evil if I hadn't voted?

Blink

Yes, your soul will burn in hell for all eternity but your eternal punishment will be less than what the apathetic get.

Thank you for voting.

Lol

If I am going to hell, I would prefer to get there on my own merits... or lack thereof.

You are damned if you do or very damned if you don't.

These are your own choices and therefore merits.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Frying Doom
#47 - 2013-04-12 11:14:36 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:

Voting for null sec candidates doesn't mean bad things will happen, it actually means you're voting for people with a keen understand of game mechanics and will stop CCP doing bad things and hopefully get them to do good things like POS revision, income changes, ship balancing etc. Things that affect all areas of EVE.

You guys should take off the tin foil hats and look at the candidates objectively and realise that historically speaking, apart from Darius III, null sec block candidates on the CSM have been a positive influence.

Listen to the propaganda.

It is a well known fact that Null CSM candidates sacrifice virgins at every Summit. Thankfully there are many of these to be found in another game, known as World of Virgins, sorry thats Warcraft.

Besides this Null sec candidates would have to propose buffs to Hi-sec for the next 10 years just to make up for
Darius III. Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-04-12 11:20:18 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
It is a well known fact that Null CSM candidates sacrifice virgins at every Summit.

I postulate that we do not sacrifice ourselves, therefore this statement is at best only partially true. :colbert:

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-04-12 11:25:46 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:

Voting for null sec candidates doesn't mean bad things will happen, it actually means you're voting for people with a keen understand of game mechanics and will stop CCP doing bad things and hopefully get them to do good things like POS revision, income changes, ship balancing etc. Things that affect all areas of EVE.

You guys should take off the tin foil hats and look at the candidates objectively and realise that historically speaking, apart from Darius III, null sec block candidates on the CSM have been a positive influence.
Shocked..., but I got my hat as a bonus when I signed up!

I don't think they can stop CCP, but many of those candidates do have knowledge. CCP might be willing to listen. But, they will only listen to CSM reps that are smart, have a larger vision of Eve, and can converse with CCP. A number of 0.0 candidates have those traits.

It goes without saying that they are all 'evil', but you can't have everything in a rep.
Kelby
#50 - 2013-04-12 11:38:24 UTC
I would only vote if there was an option to disband the CSM for good.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-04-12 11:42:21 UTC
The nullsec candidates thank you for your vote.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#52 - 2013-04-12 16:27:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Dave Stark wrote:
i think people underestimate some of the null sec candidates.


TBH I like a few of the NULL SEC candidates... but I do feel like the system's rigged like the old Chicago political manchine where I see some carpet bagger Alderman representing my district in Southside Projects yet he lives in Barrington Hills.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-04-12 16:29:43 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
[quote=knobber Jobbler]


Besides this Null sec candidates would have to propose buffs to Hi-sec for the next 10 years just to make up for
Darius III. Lol


You can be rest assured that he only got in because his alliance got everyone to vote for him. Blame Brick Squad and whatever terrible coalition they were in at the time. I don't think you would have caught anyone outside that lot voting for him.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#54 - 2013-04-12 16:34:06 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
TBH if the CSM voter turnout percentage rate falls much more (as I fearfully suspect it will ) its legitimacy amongst players definitely will plunge especilly the majorities in HI SEC & it'll definitely deserve the monkier as a "NULL SEC THING"
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Zhade Lezte
#55 - 2013-04-12 18:22:14 UTC
Also the best way to stick it to the ~nullbears~ is to vote for Frying Doom's list, which totally doesn't have the five wormhole bloc candidates on top Big smile
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#56 - 2013-04-12 18:26:45 UTC
I will vote when they provide the option
X "None of the Above"


And until they put the voting interface in game, they will never get the general population to vote.....Roll

Signature removed - CCP Eterne
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2013-04-12 18:35:50 UTC
dark heartt wrote:
Null needs representation at the moment. I don't live there and even I can see that. Hell I'm a "carebear" and I can see that.



Null has had representation....continuously. It's not the rest of our faults that CCP listens to their horrible ideas.

Don't ban me, bro!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#58 - 2013-04-12 19:31:30 UTC
Let's bring back Ankhesentapemkah so that HI SEC has a controversal candidate to vote for again Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ginger Barbarella
#59 - 2013-04-12 20:23:40 UTC
I agree, damn it!!! So everyone, go vote for the null blockers who PAY YOU the most for your vote!!

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#60 - 2013-04-12 21:01:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
<-------- wearing a tinfoil hat

Xander April 12, 2013 at 9:11 AM wrote:


(snip)

Anyway yes, as I recently blogged (along with Poetic and James315 yesterday coincidentaly - fools seldom differ?) CCP's promotional push for this year's election has been a joke. I expected much, much more after what Dolan and Fozzie both promised me in recent weeks on CZ podcasts.



I guess I could make some tinfoilhattery comment like CCP isn't advertising/educating most EVE so NULL folks get a bigger say in the CSM8 but I won't. I do have a sneaking suspicion that marketing isn't being involved in promoting the CSM due to DUST pushes & Fanfest push furthermore CSM is going to have thier work cut out because CCP is treating it like a red headed stepchild and isn't worth the ROI anymore.

I hope I'm wrong but I think we'll have the worst voter turnout % in recent history... & with the last weekend of voting here & little discussion about the candidates I think apathy is deafening. I suspect that voter numbers may be about equal to last years numbers but since Eve supposedly has grown to over 400k this will really be a net loss percentage wise
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'