EVE General Discussion

I am of the opinion that the New Player Experience needs continual improvement, and that this is so important that every dev should stop what they are doing right now and change the NPE until it is as close to perfect as possible. So, what changes to the NPE are coming in Odyssey? More spelling fixes to the tutorials?

Look, EVE is the best game I've ever played. Period. I can't even play most other games now (particularly MMOs) because of how much I like EVE compared to other games. But honestly, the NPE in EVE is utter crap. It does everything it possibly can to prevent newbros from getting a glimpse of the best parts of EVE—parts like PVP. Oh, you want some combat training? Go shoot this little red cross. Oh, you want to make isk? Go shoot this space turd for an hour. Something needs to be done to the NPE to get new players who want to pvp into accessible pvp asap (note: I'm not talking about forcing newbros into pvp, I'm talking about giving them a path in the NPE that gets them into pvp that they will learn from, when and if they want to)—and I think this can be done without a lot of coding. I think every new player system should have a FFA rookie ship only complex (perhaps with no podding or forced pod warp outs, as well as perhaps account age limitations on the plexes). New player missions and perhaps LP for kills could be built around this simple framework, but something, anything is needed to get new players who want to pvp into pvp that will teach them the basics in a fairly controlled environment.

But hey, don't like this idea? I'm sure someone (or the devs) has a better idea. I don't care, just do somethingt. Drop everything and fix it. Any changes are better than the current system.

So, please tell me CCP, what are you doing to improve the NPE for Odyssey, and particularly for those many newbros (like myself not so long ago) that join EVE solely for the PVP? And please tell me why you don't have every single dev working on improving this single worst feature of EVE that prevents so many new people from getting a taste for the best part of EVE.

No thank you.

1) no one but you wants them to "drop everything"
2) arenas of any kind are bad, since it will just encourage the enwbros after they egt too old for it to demand more bigger arenas "i had it as a newb, it was good, would be totally awesome to have it for the larger ships too"

3) eve is a community game, in all honesty, there is NO WAY IN HELL a dev can properly program a NPE to teach a newb even 10% of what he knows to be competitive, since so much of the game is player driven. the best NPE for a new player is to find a COMPETENT high-sec/low-sec corp led by older, more experienced players, to be brought into eve in a question-answer environment with hands-on learning and mentoring.

so, TL;DR, get with the sandbox, if you want a better NPE for newbs, go recruit them into your corp and teach them what you know, who knows, maybe youll even learn something yourself in the process, all the while forging friendships that later can become powerful assets for EVERY party. but that would be too much work wouldnt it? you want CCP to handhold everyone who joins, instead of encouraging the social aspect this ENTIRE GAME IS BASED AROUND.

Actually, EVE online would probably be better simply if the current NPE system were removed altogether. Funneling newbros into mining or missioning in EVE gives them a taste only for the absolute worst parts of this otherwise phenomenal game.

Mining and missioning in EVE are equivalent in enjoyment to loading screens in other games.

inb4 "here's a ship, there's a rat, try to not to die, now go forth and fornicate with oneself", which is exactly what the NPE used to consist of. It's a magnitude better than it used to be, HTFU.

This is the type of new player I like. Somebody that thinks for himself and is able to go around and join corps asking questions when needed and going head first into the fry.

Those that can't... become the sheep and therefore my targets.