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So, those Gallente FW missions against Caldari rats...

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Ty Delaney
Gambit Roulette
#1 - 2013-04-11 21:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ty Delaney
Lots of incoming missiles -- way more than a bomber can tank.

And nigh-permajam EWAR out to (so far) 180km from the target.

Do you guys just... not run missions?

If you do run them, what the hell do you use that isn't... I dunno. A Gila or something.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#2 - 2013-04-11 21:53:59 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:


Do you guys just... not run missions?
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Pretty much, yes.

Ty Delaney wrote:


If you do run them, what the hell do you use that isn't... I dunno. A Gila or something



Gila is no better as it's another drone boat. Just stop running missions. You'll save yourself the headaches.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#3 - 2013-04-11 21:58:50 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
Lots of incoming missiles -- way more than a bomber can tank.

And nigh-permajam EWAR out to (so far) 180km from the target.

Do you guys just... not run missions?

If you do run them, what the hell do you use that isn't... I dunno. A Gila or something.



Answering cause your name kinda has my name in it.

Haven't run one for ages but I used to use a HAM Drake.
I think Caracal would be capable of doing them too.


Many people don't run missions as missions don't effect the systems/sov.

Ty Delaney
Gambit Roulette
#4 - 2013-04-11 23:16:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ty Delaney
IbanezLaney wrote:

Many people don't run missions as missions don't effect the systems/sov.




Really? Best LP payout means easiest way to upgrade systems. Fighting for Minmtar, one night of mission running a week was enough to keep all the systems in our pocket shiny and upgraded, and still make enough to keep everyone in frigs and cruisers for the next week.

Kind of explains why there's around 25 systems sitting with no upgrades all the time, though -- it was puzzling.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#5 - 2013-04-12 01:38:20 UTC
Luke, the force will be with you. Trust your feelings! Use the force, let go! Trust me! Turn off the targeting computer!

That should solve your ECM issue. Who needs to target, when you can use the force?

Remember, the force will be with you. Always.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#6 - 2013-04-12 01:43:53 UTC
Sean Parisi wrote:
Luke, the force will be with you. Trust your feelings! Use the force, let go! Trust me! Turn off the targeting computer!

That should solve your ECM issue. Who needs to target, when you can use the force?

Remember, the force will be with you. Always.


You been hitting my stash???



The force is so 1970's.


IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#7 - 2013-04-12 01:53:30 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:

Many people don't run missions as missions don't effect the systems/sov.




Really? Best LP payout means easiest way to upgrade systems. Fighting for Minmtar, one night of mission running a week was enough to keep all the systems in our pocket shiny and upgraded, and still make enough to keep everyone in frigs and cruisers for the next week.

Kind of explains why there's around 25 systems sitting with no upgrades all the time, though -- it was puzzling.



Lots in FW play more for the pew pew these days.
LP is good and all, but we make enough just sitting in plexes waiting for the Gallente to find double our numbers+logi before engaging.


The 25 systems will not be upgraded because it's not LP dumping time.
Wait for your militia to do a co-ordinated dump.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#8 - 2013-04-12 02:25:08 UTC
Gallente FW missions are traditionally done with 2 characters. Yourself with either a friend or an alt.

Personally, i did mine with a mwd nemesis fit for shield buffer and speed, this enters plex first and orbits something at 160km.
My other toon has high skills with a bomber, he has a zero tank, pure gank 700+ dps manticore with 2 tp's and a web which speed up various missions in certain combinations. This bomber cloaks on the entry of a new spawn so the tank nemesis can take the agro.

Though, i havent done any missions since the rat changes, i guess now ill be using rail nagas in groups of 2/3 if i ever have to run missions again thanks to inferno lol.
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#9 - 2013-04-12 02:38:26 UTC
Cloaky Tengu is what I prefer for Gal missions.

DPS is on the low end, but still doable solo.


Yes, squid and minnie missions can be run solo in bombers.....(have never run amarr....)
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#10 - 2013-04-12 04:45:48 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
Lots of incoming missiles -- way more than a bomber can tank.

And nigh-permajam EWAR out to (so far) 180km from the target.

Do you guys just... not run missions?


I've been in FW over a year now, have never run a FW mission.

You could always run plexes to make your LP. The LP from kills is nice, too.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

Ty Delaney
Gambit Roulette
#11 - 2013-04-12 04:51:51 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
The 25 systems will not be upgraded because it's not LP dumping time.
Wait for your militia to do a co-ordinated dump.


Coordinated cash-outs? The Gallente are still plexing in 2012?
Ty Delaney
Gambit Roulette
#12 - 2013-04-12 04:54:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ty Delaney
Shadow Adanza wrote:
I've been in FW over a year now, have never run a FW mission.

You could always run plexes to make your LP. The LP from kills is nice, too.


Yeah, we really aren't having problems finding fights. Plexing is fine, but we get distracted easily, chasing guys.

Missions have always been a good time-efficient way to get LP and focus on fights the rest of the time, for us, because when we're in PvP ships, we always kind of forget to actually plex. :P
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#13 - 2013-04-12 06:04:37 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
The 25 systems will not be upgraded because it's not LP dumping time.
Wait for your militia to do a co-ordinated dump.


Coordinated cash-outs? The Gallente are still plexing in 2012?



It's not about cashouts anymore - It about maintaining Tiers for as long as possible.
When pushing a tier - it's still worth organizing the LP dump.

And yes the Gallente are still in 2012.

Lucky for me I'm a Caldari.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#14 - 2013-04-12 06:37:30 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
Do you guys just... not run missions?

Pretty much. F**k ecm. It's not good for my play experience to want to punch my screen. Being jammed by a player is one thing but being jammed for minutes at a time by npcs breaks me mentally.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#15 - 2013-04-12 07:32:53 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Ty Delaney wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
The 25 systems will not be upgraded because it's not LP dumping time.
Wait for your militia to do a co-ordinated dump.


Coordinated cash-outs? The Gallente are still plexing in 2012?



It's not about cashouts anymore - It about maintaining Tiers for as long as possible.
When pushing a tier - it's still worth organizing the LP dump.

And yes the Gallente are still in 2012.

Lucky for me I'm a Caldari.


I too enjoy being Caldari. This way we don't have to deal with inter-dimensional time warp that the Gallente have to deal with. I am sure in another universe X-Gallentious does not resemble a wandering hobo. As such, he is able to live his current life style with glee. Where Deen Wispa is actually a man, with not so nicely groomed hair. Where Chatgris plays some game called "LoL".

Who am I kidding! There is not extra dimension.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#16 - 2013-04-12 12:16:17 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
Lots of incoming missiles -- way more than a bomber can tank.

And nigh-permajam EWAR out to (so far) 180km from the target.

Do you guys just... not run missions?

If you do run them, what the hell do you use that isn't... I dunno. A Gila or something.


that is why you join minmatar fw to grind missions.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-04-13 14:53:17 UTC
Ty Delaney wrote:
Lots of incoming missiles -- way more than a bomber can tank.

And nigh-permajam EWAR out to (so far) 180km from the target.


One side gets to deal with lasers that won't even scorch the paint on the ship at 60km, the other side gets jammed and bombarded by missiles. And that's known as "balanced". Roll

Now go and read that CCP quote saying that the game is more balanced now than it ever was before. Then, if you feel like going into a corner and quietly crying at how tragically true that statement is, go right ahead, nobody will think any less of you.


BloodBird
The Crucible.
#18 - 2013-04-14 03:47:28 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Ty Delaney wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:

Many people don't run missions as missions don't effect the systems/sov.




Really? Best LP payout means easiest way to upgrade systems. Fighting for Minmtar, one night of mission running a week was enough to keep all the systems in our pocket shiny and upgraded, and still make enough to keep everyone in frigs and cruisers for the next week.

Kind of explains why there's around 25 systems sitting with no upgrades all the time, though -- it was puzzling.



Lots in FW play more for the pew pew these days.
LP is good and all, but we make enough just sitting in plexes waiting for the Gallente to find double our numbers+logi before engaging.


The 25 systems will not be upgraded because it's not LP dumping time.
Wait for your militia to do a co-ordinated dump.


You are

THE MOST

bitter man.

Reading your posts is highly entertaining, don't ever stop whining.

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#19 - 2013-04-14 04:15:36 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
BloodBird wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Ty Delaney wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:

Many people don't run missions as missions don't effect the systems/sov.




Really? Best LP payout means easiest way to upgrade systems. Fighting for Minmtar, one night of mission running a week was enough to keep all the systems in our pocket shiny and upgraded, and still make enough to keep everyone in frigs and cruisers for the next week.

Kind of explains why there's around 25 systems sitting with no upgrades all the time, though -- it was puzzling.



Lots in FW play more for the pew pew these days.
LP is good and all, but we make enough just sitting in plexes waiting for the Gallente to find double our numbers+logi before engaging.


The 25 systems will not be upgraded because it's not LP dumping time.
Wait for your militia to do a co-ordinated dump.


You are

THE MOST

bitter man.

Reading your posts is highly entertaining, don't ever stop whining.




Do you like, not read the posts of pretty much anyone else in the Caldari militia to come to this conclusion?
Tyslas
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-04-14 09:38:48 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Ty Delaney wrote:
Lots of incoming missiles -- way more than a bomber can tank.

And nigh-permajam EWAR out to (so far) 180km from the target.


One side gets to deal with lasers that won't even scorch the paint on the ship at 60km, the other side gets jammed and bombarded by missiles. And that's known as "balanced". Roll

Now go and read that CCP quote saying that the game is more balanced now than it ever was before. Then, if you feel like going into a corner and quietly crying at how tragically true that statement is, go right ahead, nobody will think any less of you.




They need to just remove all ewar from missions.
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