EVE General Discussion

Ready the flamethrowers, but I think it's time to consider moving the level 4 agents to low sec.

One of the key tenants of the EVE universe has been the risk to reward scale going from hi-sec to low-sec to null-sec. The farther you go, the greater the rewards. When it comes to mining for example, the base ores are in high sec with the most valuable in null sec. Added to that the population density in high sec and all of the belts are picked clean with the need to either move farther out into the frontier or into low sec. This shows a good example of the risk to reward escalation.

Missions on the other hand are different. While there are better paying missions in the lowsec/null sec areas, they are a small increase versus the change in risk that is associated. Level 4 missions in high sec give a substantial, multi-million ISK reward for practically no risk at all. And a character can easily get to level 4 agents in a few weeks with good Social skills.

While I do agree that new pilots need a foothold when they join EVE, this mechanic should scale with the rewards offered and I believe that by moving the level 4 agents into low sec, the risk can match the reward more effectively. (While keeping Level 1-3 agents in high sec)

There is another reason for this and that is to fight the large influx of ISK entering the EVE economy from missions. During last years Fanfest in 2012, it was pointed out that 26 Trillion ISK enters the EVE economy via missions. I believe this will go a long way in curbing inflation as pilots must now truly asses the risk of entering low sec with the greater rewards that level 4 and 5 agents offer.

Anyways, that's my idea. Flame away!

This one is different, I sense a great darkness inside it.

I did run a search just now and it does show up in several threads. But usually as responses to other ideas or to address another topic. i.e inflation.

But, a good idea is worth repeating I think, even if it is in other threads.

All missions, stations, belts, moons and sigs should be in Jove space.

Posting in another "we killed everything that moved in lowsec for no reason and now there's no more targets" thread.

This is what makes the idea so awesome.

I always wondered what all those pirate battleships were doing deep in high-sec. This would make more sense lore wise:

Level 1 : 1.0 and lower
Level 2 : 0.8 and lower
Level 3 : 0.6 and lower
Level 4 : 0.5 and lower
Level 5 : 0.4 and lower

Payout modifications are no longer by security status but simplified to high-sec, low-sec and null-sec.

Nerf enough?

Don't use a bigger stick, instead give everyone else a bigger carrot. The easier, sub-saving way is to make everything else (i.e. Incursions, FW, null-sec, industry, trading) more profitable than level 4s. Let (human) nature run its course.

Nothing much would change, a few might unsub but most would just farm lvl 3 missions. Then in a few months we would have whine threads about how lvl 3 missions are to much isk for too little risk.

This has happened before with lvl 5 missions being removed from high sec completely, The result is almost no one runs lvl 5 missions anymore.

This is mostly just thinly disguised whine about not having enough baby seals to club, Really move missions ? If isk is truly a problem, just reduce npc bounties...

translation: i don't need anything myself if it makes you lose something too