Player Features and Ideas Discussion

the hyperion with 6 5 8 and a falloff bonus would be a much better fleet ship then the mega that wastes its speed and has less base hp then the hyperion
with a 20% falloff bonus it could use blasters in big fights
it would need a small speed nerf to not make it too powerful in a shield fit

the dominix would make a much better bearer of the repair bonus since it has the utility highs to support it in the kind of fights the repair bonus is most effective
the drone tracking+range bonus is quite weak on its own and should be rolled into the drone damage bonus to make it more distinct from the droneddon

the megathron is just fine as it is as fast attack battleship and there is no reason to force it into the combat role after it got its speed buffed
the spare high it works just fine solo as well as in fleets
(contrary to popular belie the heavy neut is not as useless, it can very well tip over active tanked ships and win the chase against an equally fast ship also caping out tacklers to

Yeah I can't believe he wants that lone worthless missile hard point so he can use even more worthless defender missiles.

Having limited alternative hardpoints on all the ships would be nice, and give options. But, I understand if its impractical in some cases. Its just hard to follow the ship lines and racial preferences with half the ships following patterns and the others with notable exceptions that are so specific ship base. I would have imagined that the ship lines would mean that all the ships in that line would follow a similar set up and each within it would be slightly different according to race.

Example:

Combat turret ships have a 8 high, 8 turret, 0 utility high layout.
Attack turret ships have 7 high, 6 turret, 1 utility high.
Attack missile ships have 7 high 6 turret, 1 utility high
The differences would come from mid and low slot layout, ship base stats, and the per level bonuses.

Depending on weapon type the ships would get something extra based on race. Also note a x hardpoint is not a slot but limits how many slots you can fill up with x type module.

Gallente/Amarr non-drone ships get an extra drone over Caldari/Minmatar ships and a single missile hardpoint for defenders.
Minmatar/Caldari ships get a limited set of alternative weapon hardpoints. Raven/Typhoon get 4 turrets hardpoints while Rokh/Maelstrom get 4 missile hardpoints.

This is false, especially on a ship like the Dominix.

For starters, it has enough mid slots to run a Drone Navigation Computer or two if you wish. You'll find that one will greatly increase your damage over time to ships that aren't exactly in hugging range.

Secondly, DLAs are only really needed for sniping, and in the context of drones, you're asking for close range cost with long range performance. If you want to snipe, you run some DLA with an OTL or two. If you want to be in the thick of it, a DNC is clearly the better option. Not to mention that different drones have different speeds, and Ogres are just slow regardless

Within its maximum sentry sniping range (~200-220km), the Dominix has absolutely ridiculous performance without using turrets.

How many of those mid slots are used for sensor boosters so you can lock the target to tell them to shoot?

So what the hell is up with the domi change? To me that was always the iconic Gallente ship. It had hybrids and drones. For the drone and hybrid race. The gallente drone boats have never felt like split weapon systems, not so much as the projectile/missile set ups did. This gallente ship, is gonna be fit with projectiles now. It'll make the neut domi set ups better... but whose gonna fly a neut domi when the geddon does it better? What are you guys smoking? Out of all the battleships, the domi was one of the ships that did not need changes.

So, tristan, split weps, drones and hybrids.

Algos, split weps, drones and hybrids.

Vexor, split weps, drones and hybrids.

Domi... well damn guys these ships all work too good. Lets switch it up and try something different for ***** and giggles.

Ship rebalancing was going SO great until about the battlecruiser point. You guys just run out of steam or what?

Leave my potato/upside down sneaker alone!

Maybe give the Dominix a 10km per level range increase to MEDIUM remote armor repair modules. I say medium because that would still be useful for drones and not help it be anymore of a better logistics platform which a bonus to large remote armor repairers might.

Or maybe give it a drone control range bonus of 10km per level.

I think that would make it a great pure drone boat. Also I think having sentry drones able to be recalled at a distance would be great.

Eh, I'm not a big fan of the change either. Would prefer to keep my blasters. But CCP obviously have no intention of changing it - as proven by the fact that they didn't pull it back for review like they did the Hype and Mega. And to be honest, it's not a terrible change. The tracking bonus on Ogres with a close-range set-up does make the drones ALOT more effective. However, all the other BSs have improved and/or filled roles where the Domi could shine. The Hype will now be the superior choice for close-range brawling. Geddon is the choice for neuting. Rohk/Apoc still remain the better choices for long-range. So it's not that the Domi has gotten worse, it's just that the other ships have gotten so much better at their roles. Which leaves the Domi (as you pointed out) as a PvE boat or terrible sentry-sniper. Sucks, but it is what it is. Adapt and move on.

(And use your blaster Domis as much as possible before they get ruined.)

While I think 10 drones from a tech 1 battleship would be OP, I agree that in its proposed form, I sure as **** wont be flying it over any other battleship.