Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Navy Drake

You did it, you finally did it . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfcim_p38w

Three things to say:

[1] You have near unused EIGHT T2 Battlecruisers, rather than fixing them and figuring where in the curve they fit, youre throwing 4 new BC hulls into the mix .. Okay. I mean, I get it that the T2 balance will start after youre done with T1 and possibly with the Command Ships, but this should've waited till you fixed the existing ships.

[2] Also, such a disappointing and epic lazy design decision on the Hurricane Fleet Issue.

Further the Matari alternate doctrine of launchers and continue your attempt to 'redeem Minmatar split weapon platforms' - take the Cane Fleet in the direction of Scythe Fleet please.

Versatile fitting with 2 equal bonuses to guns n launchers - let pilots fit either set
2 Utility Highs
Fast and Small Sig

At least try, youre really expecting people to shell out ~200m+ for the old Cane with extra beef?

[3] I get the buffed HP values, but are the resist profiles the same as the T1 variants? The price is creeping to Command Ship levels, are these worth it? (or will they be post the CS rebalance)

The Drake Navy's EM hole will be sad.

It seems like the drake navy issue has exceptionally poor fitting,

At all level 5, it has
1100 PG
687.5 CPU.

for a bare-bones fit, say DCU2, 10mn MWD, and 8 HML2's,
DCU II - 1PG, 30 CPU
Experimental 10mn MWD - 150PG, 50 CPU
8 HML2 @ AWU 5. 756PG, 330.4 CPU

that leaves
193 PG
227.1 CPU

which is enough for only 1 LSE, making the Drake navy issue considerably more fragile than the regular drake.
this is also only enough CPU for 2 hardeners and 2 BCS's with 13 CPU left over for 1 low and 2 mids.

What about a HAM fit? same DCU II, and experimental 10mn MWD
8 HAM 2@AWU 5, 813PG, 300 CPU

that leaves
136 PG
307.5 CPU

The good news here is that there is spare CPU to fit 2 invuln and 2 BCS, and web+scram.
The bad news is that unless you have BOTH AWU5 and Shield upgrades 5, forget about fitting a LSE to your 170million faction ship.

The drake was always tight on fitting, and there is no way to cram 2 extra launchers onto 80 extra PG and 50 extra CPU.

Without AWU 2, you won't be able to fit an LSE on the HML version either. The navy drake will be less shooty, less bulky, and overall a complete waste of money over the regular drake.

gonna drop about a thousand of those brutixes on miners

thank you for finally giving us a ship we can blastergank in with style

If this is even close to what they will launch as at that LP cost, then either don't launch them or save them for the Winter expansion.

Don't give us back the old Hurricane at 6 times the cost and expect everyone to jump for joy. This is just lazy on your part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3JpBY7sOJQ
i believe this song is possably suitable for the RISE OF THE NAVY DRAKE!

maybe it looks disease stricken because of the plauge that is drakeswarms!

with insufficient PG to fit them

So the navy drake has less tank and less damage then non-navy drake (even less when you consider it has issues powering all of those launchers). Since pvp is pretty much omni tank, the rof bonus applying to all missile types is a pretty marginal benefit. It will cost around 200 mil.

Yeah, that's not gonna happen. You can introduce it that way if you want, and it will be yet another ship no one uses. Woooo.


Then there's the new cane, same as the old cane. Except you took the old cane away, slapped a 200mil pricetag on it, and are now trying to introduce it as a "new" ship to the playerbase. Yeah, no sale. And give us some lube next time.


So TL; DR for dev blog: Here's some reskins. We put absolutely zero thought or effort into them. And they cost 200 mil a pop. Enjoy!

~Quality Content~

The harbinger looks really good. I might fly it.