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EVE IPH Industry Calculator Version 3.3 - Now with Live Market data!

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#801 - 2013-03-20 19:06:43 UTC
Dismal Acherus wrote:
An increasing number of SVR values show as blank for me. Is there any way for me to update them manually or help my client pull the data?

Looked at this a bit and it seems like a lot of the EMD data coming back is sparse, causing the issues you see. I'll keep looking at it but I emailed the EMD dev to see what might be the issue.

No way to update them manually right now. I'm toying with an idea for a future release to read it directly from your computer's cache if you want. Might be a good way to get instant updates on a few items or something.

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Yahyan
Shayol Ghul Forge
#802 - 2013-03-27 12:58:29 UTC
Just a thought
When I copy shopping list it does not get the prices of individual items. I generally determine the items I am going to produce much before I buy them, but when I close the EVEIPH my shop list will be gone so I copy it to a text file. I do not want to keep EVEIPH open for 2-3 days.
When use my copied shop list days later I don't have data to compare prices with current ones. I need to open EVEIPH, update prices, make same shop list again and than check them again.
If you can add individial item prices to copied shop list that can help us keep track of our profit more accurately and less tidious.
KATASKOPOS
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#803 - 2013-03-29 14:08:55 UTC
Is it possible to add the ability to remove specific minerals/raw matirials from the sum of those added on the shoping list?
Mackie Avelli
Reckless Cowards
#804 - 2013-03-29 22:54:25 UTC
Yahyan wrote:
Just a thought
When I copy shopping list it does not get the prices of individual items. I generally determine the items I am going to produce much before I buy them, but when I close the EVEIPH my shop list will be gone so I copy it to a text file. I do not want to keep EVEIPH open for 2-3 days.
When use my copied shop list days later I don't have data to compare prices with current ones. I need to open EVEIPH, update prices, make same shop list again and than check them again.
If you can add individial item prices to copied shop list that can help us keep track of our profit more accurately and less tidious.



You can export to Open Office/Excel by hitting the "Copy List" button on the Shopping List screen and treating it as a CSV file. Some things don't quite translate as there are strange apostrophes that show up in the ISK lists that need to be removed before you can treat it as a properly editable spreadsheet.
Rulerodeath
Hoth Industries
#805 - 2013-03-30 05:41:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rulerodeath
Derped.
Novae Sanctum
Flectus non Fractus
#806 - 2013-03-30 16:35:38 UTC
I've found some false values (maybe i dunno ^^)

The Large Projectile Blueprints got some false values or is it my fault? ^^

eg. the EMP L got as Production value in ISKPH requirements of 2000 Tritanium (even with maximized ME/PE skills and all lvl5 char)

but i've got ingame a perfect value shown from 1760trit?

did i something wrong or are that false datas?

Greetings
Novae
Rulerodeath
Hoth Industries
#807 - 2013-03-30 23:16:32 UTC
I had false values until I noticed the "extra materials" tab on the bill of materials on the BPO. Apparently CCP added that when they reworked frigs and cruisers. Found some lengthy explanations for it in other places on the forum. The extra mats are really screwing up T1 production atm. Eventually the market will correct itself, though.
sagatar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#808 - 2013-04-04 00:18:55 UTC
Feature request:

Could you make it easier to mark a BP as a favorite. Specifically it would be nice to be able to do from the manufacturing list (if there is a way to do that, I'm missing it).

Thanks.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#809 - 2013-04-04 01:25:06 UTC
Yahyan wrote:
Just a thought
When I copy shopping list it does not get the prices of individual items. I generally determine the items I am going to produce much before I buy them, but when I close the EVEIPH my shop list will be gone so I copy it to a text file. I do not want to keep EVEIPH open for 2-3 days.
When use my copied shop list days later I don't have data to compare prices with current ones. I need to open EVEIPH, update prices, make same shop list again and than check them again.
If you can add individial item prices to copied shop list that can help us keep track of our profit more accurately and less tidious.

Good point. I'll look into it.

KATASKOPOS wrote:
Is it possible to add the ability to remove specific minerals/raw matirials from the sum of those added on the shoping list?

I have it on the list but not sure if I can do it in the current update I'm working on or not. I'll try and come up with something.

Novae Sanctum wrote:
I've found some false values (maybe i dunno ^^)

The Large Projectile Blueprints got some false values or is it my fault? ^^

eg. the EMP L got as Production value in ISKPH requirements of 2000 Tritanium (even with maximized ME/PE skills and all lvl5 char)

but i've got ingame a perfect value shown from 1760trit?

did i something wrong or are that false datas?

Greetings
Novae

I didn't notice any issues. Check to make sure you have the correct character loaded or that the skills are saved properly. I also checked a few other sites that have manufacturing and didn't notice any differences. If you have a screenshot, that would be the most help to see what the issue is.

sagatar wrote:
Feature request:

Could you make it easier to mark a BP as a favorite. Specifically it would be nice to be able to do from the manufacturing list (if there is a way to do that, I'm missing it).

Thanks.

I'm planning on adding this to the next update. The BP Management is a bit cumbersome right now but a right click 'Mark as Favorite' is a feature I'll add to the Manufacturing Tab.


BTW, Sorry for the late replies. I've been swamped with this course I'm in right now but my last major project will be over soon and I'll get the update I'm slowly working on into full swing again soon. Hoping to get a lot of long standing requests into the next version.

Thanks

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KATASKOPOS
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#810 - 2013-04-04 11:52:01 UTC
You don't have to apologize for anything. We, the regular readers of this forum, do understand that RL may occupy your time. You have offered a valuable tool to the community, meaning you have done much for us. We wish you the best with your course and new project and we are looking forward for any updates, major or minor. Good luck.
Anton Nucelari
Perkone
Caldari State
#811 - 2013-04-04 16:54:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Anton Nucelari
Hi,

is this still working ? My install doesnt update the prices.

I have upgraded to the latest version via the updater but all prices are 0. Clicking import prices yields zeros

cheers
Anton
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#812 - 2013-04-04 17:05:54 UTC
You have to import them in the import prices tab, have you set it up and pressed "Import Prices"?
Mackie Avelli
Reckless Cowards
#813 - 2013-04-05 02:40:10 UTC
Working fine here:-

"Update Prices" Tab => "Select All Items" Button => "Import Prices" Button.


Some times it can stick for a few minutes and once it took 30+ minutes to complete the download but I'm guessing that's a fault on one of the 3rd party sites that IPH uses (Eve Market Data or Eve Central).
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#814 - 2013-04-05 22:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalha Saldana
I'm currently looking at ship invention and numbers of runs on the input BPC doesn't seem to change anything (except the copy time ofc).
Whatever setting i choose (with/without decryptors and min/max runs) the output # of runs is always 1+decryptor bonus and this doesn't sound correct or am i missing something?
Partak Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#815 - 2013-04-06 18:23:15 UTC
There's a (minor) bug with the reverse engineering materials when you try to add T3 ships to the shopping list. If you choose to add 20 Strategic Cruisers reverse engineered with intact hulls sections to the list, and then copy the list to the clipboard, it says it needs 20 intact hull sections to reverse engineer (where it would only need 1 succes, i.e. about 2 intact hull sections). It is also strange that this information is in the clipboard, but not in the shopping list.

Maybe you could make a copy paste from the shopping list more spreadsheet friendly (tabulated)?

I also think that the tax calculation hasn't been updated after CCP increased the NPC tax rate and broker fee
Novae Sanctum
Flectus non Fractus
#816 - 2013-04-06 19:20:02 UTC
Zifrian wrote:

Novae Sanctum wrote:
I've found some false values (maybe i dunno ^^)

The Large Projectile Blueprints got some false values or is it my fault? ^^

eg. the EMP L got as Production value in ISKPH requirements of 2000 Tritanium (even with maximized ME/PE skills and all lvl5 char)

but i've got ingame a perfect value shown from 1760trit?

did i something wrong or are that false datas?

Greetings
Novae

I didn't notice any issues. Check to make sure you have the correct character loaded or that the skills are saved properly. I also checked a few other sites that have manufacturing and didn't notice any differences. If you have a screenshot, that would be the most help to see what the issue is.

Here are the screenshots ;)
http://novae7.de/pub/eve/fusionL_iskph.jpg
http://novae7.de/pub/eve/fusionL_ingame.jpg

the skills are overriden with "all level 5"
but with all level 5 should the raw material lost at the "peferct" value or not?




edit: aaargs o.O after reopened iskph it worked... but why? ^^ now there are the correct values....
http://novae7.de/pub/eve/fusionL_wtf.jpg

dunno why... maybe it hasn't updated the char properly... i don't know...

well nevermind... it works now...
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#817 - 2013-04-09 01:37:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Zifrian wrote:
Dismal Acherus wrote:
An increasing number of SVR values show as blank for me. Is there any way for me to update them manually or help my client pull the data?

Looked at this a bit and it seems like a lot of the EMD data coming back is sparse, causing the issues you see. I'll keep looking at it but I emailed the EMD dev to see what might be the issue.

No way to update them manually right now. I'm toying with an idea for a future release to read it directly from your computer's cache if you want. Might be a good way to get instant updates on a few items or something.

Got a reply from the EVE Market Data dev and he said..

Quote:
The history data comes from users uploading History data (they have the history tab open when they browse the market). So just because the buy/sell has been updated it's unrelated to the history.


I guess that makes sense, I always thought it was saved with the price data but I guess not. It looks like the best way to get the history data populated is to open up the history tab in the market. I've ran a few test cases to see how long it takes but I think it takes a bit.

Really wish it was easier to get market data but this is what we have and it's pretty nice to have those two sources. They do great work, just have to deal with what CCP gives us. I've looked at implementing the possibility of reading prices directly from your computer cache but I'll run into the same issues. I got a good library to use and I might implement it but if the history data is how to get values for SVR, then I'm not sure how much good it will do.

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Yahyan
Shayol Ghul Forge
#818 - 2013-04-09 11:01:51 UTC
I am using EVE IPH together with EVE Mentat to keep track of profit. It has a cache reading function depending your choice of item list. A custom item list (shop list) can be made in EVEIPH and ingame browser run its script scanning all of them, then you use cache reader. This is EVEMentat method, I do dont know what would they think if you use their idea.
Eric Raeder
No Fee Too High
#819 - 2013-04-10 17:59:27 UTC
I love the shopping list function, it is a great time saver for assembling lists of raw materials I need to buy and sorting out sets of raw materials to move into my various POS assembly arrays. I shudder when I think of the bad old days when I used to assemble such lists with pencil and paper. However, when I set up a shopping list for manufacturing a T2 item, the shopping list includes datacores and T1 BPCs. The tool apparently is giving me an average for the number of invention runs I would need to invent sufficient T2 BPCs to make the T2 items. To me, the listing of datacores and T1 BPCs is needless and annoying clutter in the shopping list, I do my shopping for invention and manufacturing separately. I could swear IPH didn't start doing this until an update 6 months or so ago. Is there some option I am missing that will allow me to exclude datacores and T1 BPCs from my shopping lists for T2 raw materials? If not, would you please consider adding such an option?
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#820 - 2013-04-10 18:48:35 UTC
Eric Raeder wrote:
I love the shopping list function, it is a great time saver for assembling lists of raw materials I need to buy and sorting out sets of raw materials to move into my various POS assembly arrays. I shudder when I think of the bad old days when I used to assemble such lists with pencil and paper. However, when I set up a shopping list for manufacturing a T2 item, the shopping list includes datacores and T1 BPCs. The tool apparently is giving me an average for the number of invention runs I would need to invent sufficient T2 BPCs to make the T2 items. To me, the listing of datacores and T1 BPCs is needless and annoying clutter in the shopping list, I do my shopping for invention and manufacturing separately. I could swear IPH didn't start doing this until an update 6 months or so ago. Is there some option I am missing that will allow me to exclude datacores and T1 BPCs from my shopping lists for T2 raw materials? If not, would you please consider adding such an option?


Having datacores there is awesome, do not remove it but maybe make it optional