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NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-04-10 09:44:41 UTC
xxBLACK SKULLxx 929 wrote:
Now I looked up the BIO on the pinata pilot and i found out the she was only 3 weeks old and had no BIO?? So I was like WTF o_O.......... Hey scout why did you pick the miner?? She was AFK....


new people who try games with suspect flag are my the most preferred targets too.

Nice to see i'm not the only one Cool

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Lina Theist
Running out of Space
ExoGenesis Consortium
#22 - 2013-04-10 09:47:59 UTC
unable to pod afk pilots. I knew the this new order was bad, but not this bad
WTFAMILOOKINGAT
Horizon Research Group
#23 - 2013-04-10 10:46:07 UTC
Why did it take so long to find a target? Don't these people post on their blog where they're operating? Wouldn't you find the type of miner you're targeting in those systems?

Xia Kairui
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-04-10 12:07:01 UTC
Onyx Nyx wrote:
Roleplays as ultimate badasses. Gets only bad right.


I think he also got the "ass" part quite right.
Singular Snowflake
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-04-10 12:38:57 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
xxBLACK SKULLxx 929 wrote:
... We just had to go hunting for the Filthy New Order miner....
You are ganking miners who paid to mine! Sweet. Lol


The newbie in question does not even have a New Order mining permit, so these "anti-order" guys just ganked a random clueless newbie.

Killing miners without permits is of course good, but consider killing some older characters next time.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-04-10 12:40:38 UTC
Singular Snowflake wrote:

The newbie in question does not even have a New Order mining permit, so...
Sad Now I am sad.
Wodensun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-04-10 13:29:27 UTC
**** off back to wow

/thread

Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident...

Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#28 - 2013-04-10 13:50:35 UTC
Singular Snowflake wrote:

The newbie in question does not even have a New Order mining permit, so these "anti-order" guys just ganked a random clueless newbie.

Killing miners without permits is of course good, but consider killing some older characters next time.


So where in The New Order's Code does it say that new players are exempt? I didn't see it. After all, how do you know it is a new player? It could be a bot-aspirant's alt. So it looks like the miner in question committed the following code violations:

1. Failure to pay the $10 million "fee".
2. Failure to display allegiance to The New Order in his bio (the OP reports the player had no bio).
3. Failure to avoid the appearance of botting. The gankers believed that the pilot was AFK, so that violation is confirmed.
4. Failure to congratulate the gankers for their success. The OP did not report such a fundamental requirement of those who follow The Code.

There may have been a fifth violation, bot-aspirant behavior, but as the pod warped off after the kill we don't know if the miner had been at the controls the entire time or if the miner had just sat down at the keyboard when the enforcement action began. Since the OP believed the pilot was AFK, I believe that is evidence of bot-aspirant behavior, but I am not an expert in The Code.

So popping the miner is fully in compliance with The Code, and it appears that The Code requires such actions. James 315 would be pleased that a new player was taught the proper lesson about the nature of Eve. I also can't wait to see Singular Snowflake's public apology to James 315 for discouraging those who wish to enforce The Code. Like maybe with a 9 or 10 digit contribution to The New Order that will appear on James 315's blog?

I just wish that CCP would move ice out of high sec so we could be done with this New Order nonsense. It's a nice scam that's netted James 315 over 64 billion ISK so far, but the gag's getting old.






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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#29 - 2013-04-10 14:09:32 UTC
Oh hey, look! Another role-playing group! Too bad you guys are terrible, maybe get another scout who can actually read a bio? Also, be more entertaining, write a few manifestos or something, you can't just ride on the New Order's fame.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Agent Smooze
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-04-10 14:42:54 UTC
The fact you wasted 5 T2 fit gank catas on one retriever makes me sad.
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-04-10 14:53:32 UTC
xxBLACK SKULLxx 929 wrote:
So I was like WTF o_O.......... Hey scout why did you pick the miner?? She was AFK.... So what do we do to AFK miners https://zkillboard.com/detail/29743677/ We make them go pop.


Well that's all for now check back as we keep on hunting this Mythical New Order Miner.

Remember boys & girls we're here to enslave not save.

929 The Anti-Savior

Err... you blew up a random miner. What does that have to do with a "New Order Miner?"

As an aside, congrats on being pro-New Order and joining the New Order of Highsec's movement with your gank.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-04-10 15:13:18 UTC
Much like your gankboats, this thread has gone and blown up in your faceLol
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#33 - 2013-04-10 15:26:34 UTC
Rosewalker wrote:
Singular Snowflake wrote:

The newbie in question does not even have a New Order mining permit, so these "anti-order" guys just ganked a random clueless newbie.

Killing miners without permits is of course good, but consider killing some older characters next time.


So where in The New Order's Code does it say that new players are exempt? I didn't see it. After all, how do you know it is a new player? It could be a bot-aspirant's alt. So it looks like the miner in question committed the following code violations:

1. Failure to pay the $10 million "fee".
2. Failure to display allegiance to The New Order in his bio (the OP reports the player had no bio).
3. Failure to avoid the appearance of botting. The gankers believed that the pilot was AFK, so that violation is confirmed.
4. Failure to congratulate the gankers for their success. The OP did not report such a fundamental requirement of those who follow The Code.

There may have been a fifth violation, bot-aspirant behavior, but as the pod warped off after the kill we don't know if the miner had been at the controls the entire time or if the miner had just sat down at the keyboard when the enforcement action began. Since the OP believed the pilot was AFK, I believe that is evidence of bot-aspirant behavior, but I am not an expert in The Code.

So popping the miner is fully in compliance with The Code, and it appears that The Code requires such actions. James 315 would be pleased that a new player was taught the proper lesson about the nature of Eve. I also can't wait to see Singular Snowflake's public apology to James 315 for discouraging those who wish to enforce The Code. Like maybe with a 9 or 10 digit contribution to The New Order that will appear on James 315's blog?

I just wish that CCP would move ice out of high sec so we could be done with this New Order nonsense. It's a nice scam that's netted James 315 over 64 billion ISK so far, but the gag's getting old.








Newbies are of course not exempt from our Code. However, unlike the rebel of questionable intelligence who created this thread, the New Order are out to educate and help players - especially new players - not just gank for no reason.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#34 - 2013-04-10 15:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
xxBLACK SKULLxx 929 wrote:
......... Hey scout why did you pick the miner?? She was AFK.... So what do we do to AFK miners ...

AFK... not AFK completely unimportant. If they have paid the New Order to keep them safe from the dangers of Eve, it is best they learn the truth now. Eve isn't about being safe... it is about managing risk. Risk/Reward. Paying someone else to do that... in highsec of all place... is going to end badly.

IMO

Hmm failure to read the Code right there, the New Order don't promise to keep their customers safe from the dangers of Eve, the permit and full compliance to the code keeps people safe from the predations of the New Order itself, everyone else can gank them, just not New Order pilots.

Ganking non permit holders is admirable, if the OP and his merry men can find a permit holder that is AFK, and manages to gank them then that's fine as well, the permit holder is in violation of the code and their permit is null and void. That said the OP is full of fail, claims miner was AFK, can't catch an AFK pod :doh:

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-04-10 16:02:59 UTC
Singular Snowflake wrote:
In what way is that man a "N.O dude"?


He has "New order" in his corpname and seems to have some weird fetish for James315?

Dodixie > Hek

Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-04-10 16:23:30 UTC
So...he came to the forums to brag about ganking a retriever?

I think the minimum requirement to post about ganking is an exhumer or lots of tears.

On a related note I killed an NPC rat guys! Isn't that so impressive, I got the bounty and all! #2pro
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#37 - 2013-04-10 16:40:59 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Singular Snowflake wrote:
In what way is that man a "N.O dude"?


He has "New order" in his corpname and seems to have some weird fetish for James315?

OP is claiming to be anti New Order, yet is hanging on to their coattails like an infant.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-04-10 19:00:08 UTC
With all those capital letters in the corporation name and in this thread title, don't forget that CAP LOCKS ARE CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!!!1!1!
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#39 - 2013-04-10 20:31:56 UTC
Dear OP,

If you'd like to engage in some real PVP, against experienced players who will fire back, please feel to travel to any low sec system, preferably in one of the factional warzone areas. Thanks and congrats on your massively profitable gank. Roll

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
#40 - 2013-04-10 21:16:45 UTC
This thread is amusing, kudos OP.