Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why not make the Megathron into a combat BS and the Hyperion an attack BS?

Consider:
*The Megathron with a utility high, good dronebay (beautifully modeled on the hull I might add), more capacitor, more fittings and more ehp plus double rate of fire and tracking gun bonuses (no wasted hull bonus in gangs with RR) would make a good combat battleship even with only 7 lows and would be more in keeping with the classic ship role.

While the Hyperion uses active reps so it's doesn't need as much raw hp, plus it uses active tanking rigs rather than trimarks which suits an attack battleship better due to the higher overall speed. It's 8 turrets and 8/5/6 layout allows it to both do a mean active armour tank and a shield dps gankboat. Active tanking is more suitable for small gangs and solo where the increased agility of an attack designation would be appreciated.

I don't think these current changes are that bad in regards to gameplay, but they are aesthetically unsatisfying. We'll have a Megathron with an impressive looking dronebay that has barely has any drones, and an awkward looking Hyperion with 6 turrets and 8 mounts.

You changed the Vexor and the Thorax roles around once already, consider doing the same here.

Another question: What does a turret fitted armour dominix do with six mid slots given that it doesn't really need any omnidirectional tracking links? Why not give the Dominix a different second bonus (rather than tracking & optimal) and just let players fit omnis if they want that?

God damn it, why did you put the megas utility high to a low slot? Please put it on the mids, please please please. It doesn't need more lows, it needs another mid. The problem with the previous changes was taking away the low for a mid. Taking the high and putting it on the mid would be much better.

Hype change is finally good, it'll still diaf to tier 3 bc's x 3, but at least it'll do it in style.

Lovely changes, going to train into Hyperion after Proteus is maxed out in every corner.

Split on the changes myself. Will have to look at it.

Trying to come to this answer.

I have Gallente BS to 5. Have the BS's come far enough that I no longer have to train Amarr BS to 5.

The Dominix still needs something. Dunno what but it needs something.

The new Mega and Hyperion.. dunno yet.

I want that Mega in so many ways right now...

Well this all looks fairly interesting and certainly appreciate CCP addressing the concerns laid out. Overall these look fairly solid though we'll have to see how it all works out once they come out on Sisi.

1) Hyperion looks much better. While pound for pound it may be a bit stronger compared to other BS's, I think its ok due to the way its used in small gangs and its lack of mobility make this a fine trade off. How often you ever see a BS 1 v 1 anyways? So overall I look forward to using it. At the end of the day when its active tanked its dps is rather weak and having to use small guns makes it still very niche. The shield tanked version may be a bit of an issue, but those die pretty quick anyways with that paper tank.

2) The Mega. Wow, 8 bottom slots. Interesting. Though I'm not sure how it will pan out but I suspect its not going to be as uber as people think due to fitting space but I haven't worked it out yet so I could be wrong. For those complaining about the bump to the Mega's speed and making it too fast, especially in comparison to the Mael, this fit obviously plays to buffer armor and once you throw those 3 tri-marks and plates on its still a slow cow. And its DPS projection is still weak made worse with the drone reduction. I'll reserve judgement until I can start playing with all the fittings but I think the APOC will be the boat of choice. Insane range and Mega tracking with Scorch. The tracking is what really made the Mega sweet. APOC is now just OMG awesome. By the way it cracks me up when people use void as the ammo to talk DPS. At least when you do please note range and tracking speed of your guns when you do so. A boat can have a million DPS in this game and it doesn't matter a whiff if it cannot apply it effectively.

3) Domi... very torn. I mean the whole RR Domi thing can be fun and with sentries it will be cool, but if your going to spend the isk, why not just alpha stuff in Mael's? They are all going to cost the same and once you put all those ridiculously expensive sentries into a Domi it will probably be the most expensive overall to fit (just guessing.) and none of the draw backs. I guess for killing structures this will be a good boat? Seems more PVE oriented really. meh.

ZOMG That Megathron is the sexiest thing I've ever seen in eve ever! TY TY TY TY TY! :D

Yeah, lets not balance a ship around available content... With this argument, we may as well balance everything with t1.

If you're having cpu issues, just like the mega and geddon have had in the past, go and fit a c-type adaptive instead of a t2 eanm. It pretty much solves the problem. If you're afraid of risking a "cheap" dead space module then go ahead and fit a co-proc.

Something just occurred to me...
Would a mass reduction role bonus for Attack Battleships be out of place?

Exactly!
I want my Guristas Shuttle balanced around the Rattlesnake!
Oh, true, and my Rifter balanced with the Moros!

Oh come on, fitting C-types should not be a prerequisite to being able to properly fit a ship.

Deadspace/faction/officer modules are the icing on the cake, not the wheat it's made with...