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User Interface: Overview Bugged
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Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-31 18:36:29 UTC
So I've already submitted a bug report, but I feel this issue deserves QUITE A BIT more attention. Ever since the new code for the User Interface was implemented I have experienced consistent but unpredictable overview bugs. Distances and other ships' velocity, transversal, etc do not update/display properly and suddenly seem to freeze in place. You can switch tabs, or minimize the window, but it is very inconvenient to do so during a fast paced fight and often does not even fix the problem.

This problem makes the game virtually unplayable (and yet I go on, as a proper addict does), and I know I am not alone in having this particular issue. I've looked through various forum sections and haven't really found anyone mentioning this, aside from people's claims that the selected item window freezes and they get podded (which is at least in part related). So please, if you have experienced similar problems please SAY IT HERE. I for one am fairly pissed that this problem has gone unfixed. It is a very essential aspect of the game and it is a real let down that it still doesn't work properly.
Crazy ki113r
Wolf Pack Aquisition and Consulting
#2 - 2011-10-31 20:37:18 UTC
Ive had this happen also it is very annoying and has cost me a pretty fair amount of isk
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-10-31 20:51:57 UTC
Yeah me too. I think my isk efficiency dropped a whole % the first two weeks. I've gotten used to it now but that's like saying I gotten used to driving a car with no headlights in the middle of the night.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#4 - 2011-10-31 20:54:37 UTC
This bug makes target calling a real pain in the backside when it presents itself. And makes you sound stupid calling targets that your overview says are 5km away but have actually burnt to 80km lol.
KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-10-31 21:09:39 UTC
+1, this needs to be bumped. The biggest tool we have for getting information about what's going on around us is a sorry, broken & bugged mess.

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
Stigman Zuwadza
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-11-01 02:36:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Stigman Zuwadza
This seems as good a place as any to post about the Overview problem.

Even with the new patch which works fine (for me) ....except when you are using the 'Map' view.

When docking / undocking with the map open the same problem as before still exists ...the Selected Item / Overview window magically move to a new location.

5/10 I guess for half fixing it. Oops

It's broken and it's been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come.
Sniperdoc
Stargate Kommand
#7 - 2011-11-01 13:20:38 UTC
Same issue here. Have several posts about this...
Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-11-02 04:18:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tentaki
Stigman Zuwadza wrote:
This seems as good a place as any to post about the Overview problem.

Even with the new patch which works fine (for me) ....except when you are using the 'Map' view.

When docking / undocking with the map open the same problem as before still exists ...the Selected Item / Overview window magically move to a new location.

5/10 I guess for half fixing it. Oops


So I guess at this point I want to be clear that I am referring to the overview window itself, and ship distances and other stats not updating properly/lagging out. I also want to point out that I began experiencing this particular bug after the first incarna patch (or whenever they introduced the new code into the UI for tranq, it may have been the second or third).

I did also experience the dock/undock bug for the overview/ships and items windows. Someone simply told me to take that window off of the edges of the screen, and that seemed to resolve the bug. (edit: I meant to say drag the station services/ships/items window off the edges of the screen whilst docked)

But yea, again, the overview window problems NEED to be fixed for this to be a reliably playable game. I'm fine until my overview starts to bug up and I get tackled and die for no good reason. I then turn into a giant ball of rage and contemplate biomassing my characters. Anyways, carry on, keep reporting in y'all.
Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-11-02 11:06:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tentaki
is there some way to get a dev to look at this? or do I just wait until they happen upon this thread?

edit: HELLO DEVS AND GMS. PLEASE LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ICON FOR A TEMPEST NOT SHOWING PROPERLY ON KILLMAILS. ffs.
Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-03 11:58:00 UTC
Bumping this even I look pathetic doing so. Because this thread is more important than crap like this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28725&find=unread

Really, I don't use the forums all that often. I understand that folks who can't log in, etc. take priority over something like this, but how long do I have to wait for this get the attention it deserves?
ALUCARD 1208
Naga's Be Trippin
#11 - 2011-11-03 13:56:05 UTC
they will just say there record show no logs of this behaviour.. i lost a ship on a gate even tho my overview said i was at 0 it wouldnt let me jump kept telling me i was 2 far away..... ccp practically said tuff **** which is wrong this game is paid for and should be running in tip top condition they know these problems exist and dont even pay attention to them aslong as there getting subscriptions.

BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#12 - 2011-11-03 14:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
Same on several occasions. keeping range and closing, find a target and start moving in...no way can he lock me from there.....**** switch tabs, awesome, everyone can lock me from there.

even more fun when you're the secondary caller because the primary went down due to the same bug. I'll call by visual!

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Stigman Zuwadza
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-11-11 20:35:08 UTC
Ninja bump.....but also to highlight that the Selected Items / Overview windows are still moving whilst in Map view when docking / undocking. You fixed the problem when not in Map view, one would think that this is a mega easy fix for you.

Fix please.

It's broken and it's been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come.
Marrano Cardosa
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#14 - 2011-11-11 22:30:20 UTC
The overview is not showing all itmes all the times. I have tab setup for various things and they just don't show what they ar supposed to.

Like some of the tabs wil show gates, but other don't, even though both are configured to show gates. Some will show blue ships when they aren't supposed to, other will show them when they aren't, same with red and neut ships. A tab that is only supposed to show drones will also show planets.
Sparkard Achase
Mothra inc
#15 - 2011-11-13 01:06:43 UTC
I've also experienced the "ui freezing" problem, yet not with ov but speed meter. After jumping it froze after few seconds. It kept repeating untill i had restarted the game.
What bothers me more is the problem with ov resizing when docking/undocking with map open.
Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-12-06 16:20:07 UTC
Bumping again because it needs it. I keep seeing patch notes stating these things will be fixed with no results. Same bugs all the way since Incarna. Happened again today: was killing a Naga on a gate, being careful to keep my range as the blob was threatening. Once they came in it was nothing too threatening; managed to down the naga before the falcon got jams in. From there I was deciding if i could kill anything else, then realized as I tried to burn off that my mwd wasn't working. Hype that was 40k away was actually at 0, scramming me. I submitted ANOTHER bug report and a screenshot this time. For gods sake if this doesn't get fixed soon I'm unsubbing, whether it makes a damned difference to CCP or not.
Khalidah Kassab
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-06 17:24:13 UTC
perhaps a bug i found is connected to the things mentioned here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=41857
Tentaki
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-06 19:22:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tentaki
here is a link to the snap I submitted in my bug report, clearly illustrating that distances are NOT updating properly.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6467389481_9bf3e6a514_b.jpg

edit: according to my overview I should be fine. amirite?
hundurinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-06 19:42:38 UTC
yeh it makes me srsly nerdrage
Elder Ozzian
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-12-07 01:20:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Elder Ozzian
+1 - I've got phantom ships on my overview!

Also the targeting sucks - 2550 scan-res interceptor "couldn't target nothing" - yet i could approach it (caused by clickfest with ctrl-button down).

I disagree!
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