Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As an exclusive Gallente pilot, here's my take.

I always thought the Domi lost it's extra slot because of it's double damage bonus, not because it was a drone boat. Like the pest with only 6 turrets, or the phoon having to split it double damage across different weapon systems that used the same slots.
If you take away the double damage give it a slot back, I would say low. And because the geddon is both an ewar and drone boat that can be your excuse for not giving it another slot and possibly balance the 2 of them out. This might make the Domi even more versatile.

The idea of an Assault batteship being able to survive to make it back to a gate 35 k off, seems to fit more with the Hype than the Mega because of the rep bonus. In addition because active repping doesn't come with the big velocity and agility nerf, doesn't it seem more sensible to increase the agility and velocity of this ship instead? The idea of the 8/5/6 slot layout with this train of thought and things seem to fit.

That leaves the Mega, which needs to attempt to be both tank and gank, and fleet doctrine. I am not versed in this, but wouldn't moving the utility slot to a low effective give it a boost to either dps, range or tank based on what is fit. That does step on the toes of the Navy Mega, but just give that an 8th turret. And in fleet doctrine, isn't damage bonus better than ROF, so give it the drone back and leave the damage bonus.

i think the mega should be the combat ship and the Hyperion be the attack ship...

i mean look at the hyperion its a giant thruster... it should be fast and active tank rigs dont slow you down so it would go better with the ship bonus...

i would lower the mass of the ship and lower its sig radius and its ehp...

then i would up the damage bonus to 10% per level. also remove one turret high slot but keep the 8th as utility

also i would make the repair bonus also affect the heat bonus of internal reps plus a reduction in the cap activation cost.

so now a large tech II armor rep will take 250 cap to activate.

and on overload with skills at v each armor rep will repair 1966 damage per burst and 241 dps tank before resists.

so now two overheated large armor rep II on a hyperion with two aux pumps and one nano pump will tank 481 dps or with average reist being 71.8 so that means 1715 dps tank... and 1125 dps without drones.

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as for the mega i like the rate of fire bonus but i would up it to 7.5% and take away a high slot and replace it with a low.
plus i would return the 125 m3 drone bay

now to make this ship a fleet ship it will have to gain mass and a larger sig radius and more ehp...

Also this is controversial but i would replace the tracking bonus with a fall off bonus... to make the ship useful for fleets it needs medium engagement range and 50% bonus to fall off will let this happen you are looking at 860 dps (not including drones) @ 62 km nuetron balsters II with null and two new TE II and one tc II...

i think the talos has stolen the show with the tracking bonus and there is no point in making the mega compete against it cuss it cant... so change the tracking bonus on the mega to a fall off to make there a real choice for gal fleets.

After these changes, this is no more! :troll:
But indeed, when Fozzie (or was it Itterbium?) posted the results of their preliminary investigation, I figured they'll only rework Typhoon - because Fozzie hates split weapons. I clearly remember that Domi was mentioned as being "fine", so I expected just minor tweaks.
And suddenly - THIS! ...why?

Firepower sure, but there's more to a Battleship than how much damage it can put out.

Idea for Megathrion & Hyperion


Megathron Bonus:
5% refire Rate
7,5% Tracking
8 High, 7 Turrets, 5 Med, 6 Low, 125 dronebandwith
make it more agil then the Hyperion, but slower at max speed.

Hyperion Bonus:
5% dmg (same)
7,5% armor repair (same)
8 High, 8 Turrets, 4 med, 8 low, 50 dronebandwith
make it less agil then megathron, but give more max speed (like 300ms) and give it a slight better cap regeneration.

You literally just removed a slot from the mega and gave it to the hyp. That is not how this works.

Give the Domi a cap transfer bonus to put it on equal footing with the Armageddon as far as being a drone carrier from the drone-based ace.

I would also like to see sentry drones able to MWD when being recalled. This would allow me to deploy drones, then shoot stuff while moving, without having to move back to a known point in space to pick them up.

That is because you are completely neglecting the resists, which are the most critical component of the tank. I grabbed the old fleet fit I have for those stats - pre t2 plate change. Doesn't change anything, because the abaddon stats are also m4 plated.

the problem is, ccp dont want to change the armor boni. they will make it usefull.

so we need to give ccp tipps that compares with the armor boni.

and it seems they want pretty much to remove the 5 med.

so if they remove the 5 med, the should make the dronebandwith smaller, and give it a 8 low slot in my opinion. that will make the ship perfect. and the ship need a movement speed buff. 144m/s is to slow. they should put the max speed to 220M/s without making the ship more agile.

and the mega should become agile like the machariel and the refire rate bonus fits perfect with the tracking bonus as you say.

You're aware that you're talking about a battleship with SEVEN low slots right?
Passive fit, It has more damage and hitpoints than your standard fleet artillery Maelstrom, and its hp is about the same as a Rokh.

HOWEVER.
A Gallente *sniper* should never outperform the Caldari/Amarr @ extreme range, because that's what those races excel at.
Maybe something like a MJD range bonus could be fun to play with, because Gallente is a close-midrange race.

With that said, it's unlike that any turret based ships will ever supplant the Rokh/Mael for sniping because of three reason.
1. The Rokh will always have the best range. Nothing compares to it.
2. Because of the way artillery (alpha) works, and the Maelstroms 8 turrets, it will always be a top choice.
3. Both of these ships are significantly less cap hungry and harder to tank against than lasers.