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Scamming - Why I will never do anything else in eve

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Random CorpOwner
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-04-09 20:48:19 UTC
First off let me start by saying I have been playing eve online for around 9 years, and for the last month and a half I have started scamming people. It is the first time in my eve career that I have ever taken anything from another player, that was not mine using anything aside from force. I have done alliance scams, double isk scams, market and contract scams, and pretty much any trick you can think of and I bet some you have not thought of. Today in only a month and a half I have made 32 BILLION isk...

So while I wait for my super carrier to be delivered I have a moment to reflect.

First off if you are a new player to eve. I highly recommend you take up scamming people. It is the only career in eve that has absolutely no risk what so ever. I have made 32 billion isk, and the whole time simply got to pvp on my main. Its like setting traps and going through out your day and just checking on them before you go to bed.

I will never again rat, mine, trade, or capture pocos and poses with my main and his corp. There is no reason for me to take up building stuff, or anything that generates isk; as a scammer I have an endless supply of isk. Its like growing fruit. You just have to go pluck it once a week and you will never go hungry.

On my main, I own a corp. A pretty well off corp with a bit over a hundred members, and I am an outstanding dood. My guys love me and we have a blast.... We get a few new people in asking me what they should do in eve to earn money. I have to restrain from telling them to start scamming and that bothers me.

I feel like where this is a valid and healthy mechanic, it is fundamentally flawed. It is the only way in eve that you can make ISK and never put anything on the line. Absolutely nothing at all! I have made 32 BILLION isk, with my alts and never had to undock aside from one time. I robbed a corp for 10 billion... and never even saw them in local. Sure it was there fault... but why do they have to take all the risk when I am the one that stands to be rewarded?

So then that presents a question.........

How long will it be before people stop playing the game and just try to scam each other out of their ISK? How long will it take before everyone catches on and realizes that there is no need for missions, mining or anything else when you can just scam on an alt?

I feel like I am honestly late to the buffet. I feel like the majority of long term players have already discovered this as a means of funding their accounts as well as their play toys.. ohh and on that note.. I WILL NEVER HAVE TO PAY FOR EVE AGAIN! When it gets to the last week or so of my account.. I just scam someone for some isk and buy a plex. I have eaten good for my lunch breaks at work, all because I have 45 bucks extra a month.. Eve has become free to me! Ill let someone else pay for my account.. who knows it might be some of you reading this right now... HAHA DISABILITY ;)

Seriously guys, if you have not started scamming you really should! Why waste your time "working" why worry about complicated spread sheets, or risk assessment... just scam and then funnel the money to an alt... or a couple if you want to get paranoid and make sure its not obvious by looking at your API key.

Scamming isn't a power thing to me.. I don't enjoy taking whats not mine so easily... I get no kicks out of it. I suppose like most scammers say "its just business"... It is absolutely with out any doubt the easiest way to make isk in EVE.

Frankly I can't figure out if there is any other reason I would want to do anything else in eve that generates ISK and I bet if you guys gave it an honest try for about a week (it takes a couple days to get into the groove), you would agree completely with me!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2013-04-09 20:54:31 UTC
Random CorpOwner wrote:
How long will it be before people stop playing the game and just try to scam each other out of their ISK? How long will it take before everyone catches on and realizes that there is no need for missions, mining or anything else when you can just scam on an alt?
If everyone were doing it, no-one would be able to do it. Blink
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-04-09 20:56:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Quote:
and I am an outstanding dood
The whole post is a lie.


edit: damn, tippia ! lol

Anyway ... it's still a lie. Trying way too hard to convince us that you are what you say you are.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#4 - 2013-04-09 21:00:24 UTC
The biggest scam in EVE is that scamming is actually profitable. It's just bots and ISK laundering.
Dave Stark
#5 - 2013-04-09 21:00:27 UTC
some one tried to scam me the other day.

it seems the failure of notec hit some people harder than they'd like to admit. especially when their corp title was "pos fueler".
Alekksander Geinesa
Divine Mortals
#6 - 2013-04-09 21:09:25 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Quote:
and I am an outstanding dood
The whole post is a lie.


edit: damn, tippia ! lol

Anyway ... it's still a lie. Trying way too hard to convince us that you are what you say you are.



Agreed OP we all know youre not so outstanding :)
Ckra Trald
Ckra Trald Corporation
#7 - 2013-04-09 21:18:10 UTC
send me your 32bil, and ill double it, i promise

http://www.rusemen.com/ Join Tengoo xd

Untanas Volmyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-04-09 21:18:45 UTC
If someone fell for a scam that resulted in them losing money without researching a failsafe. Then it's they're own fault. If the system does not provide a way to ensure customer/distributer guarantees for example. Signed contracts that if broken will result in a wanted status. Then maybe it should. Also. There should be a scamming tutorial lol.

Murphy's Technology Law - If your not thoroughly confused. Then you were not thoroughly informed.

Xayder
modro
The Initiative.
#9 - 2013-04-09 21:21:50 UTC
Random CorpOwner wrote:
Today in only a month and a half I have made 32 BILLION isk...


Meh isnt much for me

an average goon would get that amount in a month

righte?.....Righte?

I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main

Random CorpOwner
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-04-09 21:22:27 UTC
Untanas Volmyr wrote:
If someone fell for a scam that resulted in them losing money without researching a failsafe. Then it's they're own fault. If the system does not provide a way to ensure customer/distributer guarantees for example. Signed contracts that if broken will result in a wanted status. Then maybe it should. Also. There should be a scamming tutorial lol.



I agree on the scamming tutorial! I should set one up... or maybe they should add it to "what personality are you in eve"


However, the wanted status thing.. meh.. who cares if my alt that never undocks is wanted? You guys gonna come get him out of the station? Further more you are not hurting me, cause he only has the SP that he started with, and no assets.... He is simply a "tool" for "anonymity" and nothing more...





Random CorpOwner
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-04-09 21:23:15 UTC
Xayder wrote:
Random CorpOwner wrote:
Today in only a month and a half I have made 32 BILLION isk...


Meh isnt much for me

an average goon would get that amount in a month

righte?.....Righte?



Oh... well then I will leave the scamming tutorial to you my good sir for you are far greater then I!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-04-09 21:28:15 UTC
You couldn't steal the ore from a canminer.
Stop pretending, nobody believes you.

The much more important topic is ...

How much did you lose ? :D
Alekksander Geinesa
Divine Mortals
#13 - 2013-04-09 21:31:15 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
You couldn't steal the ore from a canminer.
Stop pretending, nobody believes you.

The much more important topic is ...

How much did you lose ? :D



Not that I am agreeing with the OP, but you said he is trying to hard to convence people he is what he says he is... However it sounds like to me you are trying to really hard to convence people he is not what he says he is...


Random CorpOwner
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-04-09 21:34:45 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
You couldn't steal the ore from a canminer.
Stop pretending, nobody believes you.

The much more important topic is ...

How much did you lose ? :D



Solid insult is solid.


The most I have been scammed for was 2 billion, like 5 years ago when I accepted a contract for a bunch of BPOs that I thought were rare and valuable. They were not... at all... I ended up loosing like 1.6 billion isk.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-04-09 21:37:43 UTC
I once sold an Amarr Navy Badger.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#16 - 2013-04-09 21:57:46 UTC
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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-04-09 22:10:39 UTC
You know what would be awesome....

If you posted a link to a picture of your 32 billion isk wallet.

Or you could just send me 100 million and I'll vouch for you on the forums that I saw it.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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Alekksander Geinesa
Divine Mortals
#18 - 2013-04-09 22:31:29 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
You know what would be awesome....

If you posted a link to a picture of your 32 billion isk wallet.

Or you could just send me 100 million and I'll vouch for you on the forums that I saw it.



Dude, He spent the isk on a Super Carrier didn't you see that ;) shesh reading comprehension FTW :P


Clever OP, really clever.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-04-09 22:33:17 UTC
Alekksander Geinesa wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
You know what would be awesome....

If you posted a link to a picture of your 32 billion isk wallet.

Or you could just send me 100 million and I'll vouch for you on the forums that I saw it.



Dude, He spent the isk on a Super Carrier didn't you see that ;) shesh reading comprehension FTW :P


Clever OP, really clever.


Fine then. A screen shot of his super carrier. Preferably one with the system location showing.

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Rebecha Pucontis
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-04-09 22:48:50 UTC
Kind of funny because after reading this post I bet we will see a few more newbs in local spamming obvious scam contracts thinking they are going to make 32 billion isk as a result of this post. :)
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