Player Features and Ideas Discussion

domi is not going to change... its the new king slowcat... personally i am in love with it...

as for the mega... i would think a better rate of fire bonus and remove one gun so that its 6 turrets one utility high slot and then add back a low... i would like to see the tracking bonus replaced with a falloff but hey i can live without it...
now you can shield tank it and go nuts with nano or proper armor tank it... plus think nuetrons with null with a 50% increase in falloff?!?!?

as for the hype?
i would increase the damage bonus and reduce to 6 turrets take away a high slot and replace with a mid slot. include a cap activation redcution for the armor bonus...
so you now would have 7 high slots 6 turret
5 mid slots and 7 low slots...

R.I.P Bhaalgorn your services are no longer required because the geddon can now out range you, has the ability to use any turrets that don't need cap, use launchers, have drones like a domi and has better calibration because that is what eve has been missing right an amarrian drone boat that can out do ( apart from the neut, nos amount ) a pirate BS and a native drone race.

This whole post is full of 'wtf'.
As it's been said time and time again, the damage loss from fitting large hybrids is minimal.
By minimal I mean 150-200dps on a MAX GANK setup, which means you're now stuck with ~1300 for that.
On a TYPICAL fit the damage difference is much much smaller, and I'd argue something like 100dps or less.

At the same time you're gaining a nice boost of hp & drone damage application. You're not exactly coming out behind.
You can still fit your blasters/rails, and chances are you wouldn't even notice something was off if you were unaware of the change.

As for the new Armageddon... I think you're overestimating the ship quite a bit.
SET of neuting bonuses? Let's be clear It has one and that's range.
That means you're getting a MAXIMUM of 38km neuting range (without faction gear) on a battleship that has 4 mid slots, destructible damage (drones), and an almost guaranteed passive tank.

It does not have a neut AMOUNT bonus like the Bhaalgorn, so stop making comparisons to it.
A Bhaalgorn will remove more cap than it takes to activate its neut. That (in addition to its capacitor) is why it does its job well.
The Armageddon is not that. If that were the case, you would have been seeing people using Neut Domis left right and center instead of the Bhaalgorns that everyone loves.

A Neut Dominix (in brawling trim no less) is entirely capable of handling one. Hell, I'd even argue ANY of the 5+ slot battleships will be able to deal with the ship quite handily. If you're really concerned about the extreme neuting prowess of that highly cap unstable battleship (which would be an utter fool to fit more than 2 neuts on), do what nobody seems to do and try running a Large Cap Battery. FYI, they reduce incoming neut drain by 12.5%. A plated Tempest would absolutely eat an Armageddon.

Furthermore, PRICES ARE BEING NORMALIZED.
The Hyperion is no longer 250m, so it shouldn't be performing like its way better.

Not at all. It has 5,500 more PWG than the Domi and will therefore be able to out-tank, and out-dps the Domi while also fitting 2x Heavy Neuts that reach to 35km. Bottom line, Prophecy does everything better than the Dominix EXCEPT "Sniper Domi".

In other words: Engagement envelope of Geddon: Huge. Engagement envelope of Domi: miniscule.

*Sigh*

Prom thinking about balance purely in the 1 vs 1 arena again.


38km neuts will be a big deal and will make the geddon a very popular ship, when combined with new beam apocs or abaddons - you could probably leave your loki/rapier/huggin at home. The bonuses have just too much synergy and relevance in this current game and pretending that it's no big deal, and that you should just bumble through and that you suck if you can't make it work is annoying as hell.

Scorch really needs a nerf bad.

Heavy meta 4 neut uses 500 Gj per cycle -45% ( 3 x large egress port maximize I rigs 300 calibration points ) = 275 Gj per cycle so you can run 2.9 ( for arguments sake 3 heavy neuts ) per cap charge ( 1 800 cap booster ).

Just as an FYI 500 Gj used to activate 600 Gj neuted every neut neutralises more than it uses.

People do use neut domi's as a cheap version to the bhaalgorn then they shop for a bhaalgorn if they want to neut even more.

I'm not saying it won't be popular, I'm saying it won't be as amazing as many people are implying.
In the grand scheme I'd be VERY surpised if Battleship fighters really care about some heavy neuts with 12km more range.

Smaller ship classes already avoid the 25km heavy neut danger zone like the plague, and the same can be said for dealing with any Recons. The latter being ships that are far more threatening in a roaming fleet than a fleet BS will ever be.

The day I start seeing people regularly roaming around in gangs with BS in them again, is the day I will applaud CCP.
As far as FLEET situations go, 38km means nothing to a battleship.

It really boils down to risk aversion. Why bring a BS when you can bring something far more agile and better speed to turn avoid an actual fight with an almost identical damage profile?

Scorch is one of the few things keeping lasers competitive with projectiles.