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The old Stuff back - including improvements

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#301 - 2013-03-23 13:49:57 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Overall I like the new stufff. The new nebulas are more realistic and their placing in the game adds to the feeling of immersion nebulas should actually dim as you get close to them as the light fills more of the sky and you are in a smaller portion of that sky, they also do a good job of giving you a sense of geography when travelling which further adds to the feeling of immersion . Out of the recent improvements the only ones that I am not happy with are the changes to battlecruisers but hopefully they will be looked at in time.



i know, the new stuff is more realistic, but i likedmore the old stuff mostly the turret moddels

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Jessy Berbers
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#302 - 2013-03-23 15:49:29 UTC
Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones?
Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone.
didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties.
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
#303 - 2013-03-23 17:13:07 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
Gustav Mannfred wrote:
why not, my idea is not to remove the new ones, it is to make an option in general settings called "use old weapons" or something else.
While I am neither an artist nor a producer, a lot of work might be involved maintaining several sets of turrets or assets in general. Then the question arises if the precious developer time should be invested in maintaining a large pool of average assets or to have a smaller, but still sizable set of assets which are kept at high quality and improved while technology advances. Resources are always limited. Think for example at tesselation in EVE as described in this devblog and shown here. Or think about new missile launchers and effects.





Show me this pool of assets... on Dominix. You'll need a loupe to find LARGE turrets on it.
And new missile launchers looks terrible in the cases that I've seen myself. The ship with small rocket launchers fitted looks like an american transient coming out of 3rd class market with a bunch of paper bags in hands. VERY poor work.

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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#304 - 2013-03-23 17:28:21 UTC
This thread still exists?

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#305 - 2013-03-23 19:36:50 UTC
Jessy Berbers wrote:
Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones?
Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone.
didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties.

Even touching the game files is an instant ban if CCP finds out, which they have before.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#306 - 2013-03-23 20:44:18 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Jessy Berbers wrote:
Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones?
Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone.
didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties.

Even touching the game files is an instant ban if CCP finds out, which they have before.

you're stupid. At one point in time CCP told us how to modify the video files to play porn/movies/tvshows/music etc in the cq.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#307 - 2013-03-29 08:00:24 UTC
Tonto Auri wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Gustav Mannfred wrote:
why not, my idea is not to remove the new ones, it is to make an option in general settings called "use old weapons" or something else.
While I am neither an artist nor a producer, a lot of work might be involved maintaining several sets of turrets or assets in general. Then the question arises if the precious developer time should be invested in maintaining a large pool of average assets or to have a smaller, but still sizable set of assets which are kept at high quality and improved while technology advances. Resources are always limited. Think for example at tesselation in EVE as described in this devblog and shown here. Or think about new missile launchers and effects.





Show me this pool of assets... on Dominix. You'll need a loupe to find LARGE turrets on it.
And new missile launchers looks terrible in the cases that I've seen myself. The ship with small rocket launchers fitted looks like an american transient coming out of 3rd class market with a bunch of paper bags in hands. VERY poor work.



i know it. The heavy pulse lasers lookslike a moskito and the mediumpulse laser looks like a torpedo launcher.


About the idea to modify the client:

I dont do it, its a violate of the EULA and ends with a ban. I belive, that when i modify to the old stuff, it will often crash or the game will be very slow.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Hanspeter Meier
Doomheim
#308 - 2013-04-09 15:52:09 UTC
Its also hard to modify the files.

However, do not ever try this, you will get banned


I also want back the static complexes, they were nice.
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#309 - 2013-04-19 14:34:39 UTC
i want the static plexex back too, because they were nice. If you was bored, you just could took out a frigate and farm then to make easly lots of isk.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Teri Cox
Doomheim
#310 - 2013-04-25 12:34:00 UTC
and im still want to see theold nebulaes and turrets
Jureth22
State War Academy
Caldari State
#311 - 2013-04-25 12:57:01 UTC
want.the old guns/drones/missiles sounds,especialy mega pulse laser sound,it used to be so epic.
marVLs
#312 - 2013-04-25 13:10:26 UTC
Yeah most of the new nebulas are boring, and there's not enough of them
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#313 - 2013-05-08 06:36:08 UTC
marVLs wrote:
Yeah most of the new nebulas are boring, and there's not enough of them


i find the same, they have also low quality and are very dark

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#314 - 2013-05-25 08:45:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Gustav Mannfred
Here new missing stuff:



The old canflip mechanic:
- The new mechanic destroys the rule "Im the owner of the can, only i canprotect it"
- Suspectflags should more awarded for illegal attacks in Low-Sec
- Add new Flag: Aggressing-timer
- 15 min duration
- player to corp/alliance flag (Includes NPC too, no reaction by navy or concord, if the ally is in factional warefare)
- awarded by stealing loot, remote assist a non-suspect/Criminal/outlaw, which is in war with another corp
- remote assisting someone with LE gives agressing flag. He and all members of his corp/alliance can freely attack

Killrights:
- it shouldnt be possibile to make them free for all, limit it to corporation (not NPC or Alliance)
- this is to avoid using alts to remove killrights

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#315 - 2013-05-26 21:39:35 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Jessy Berbers wrote:
Maybe instead of whining you should get the skills and modify your own client to use the old turret models, as the new ones?
Just like i used to do with WoW, i modded certain stuff on my side alone.
didnt give me any advantages just a different skin, for me myself and i, not visible to other parties.

Even touching the game files is an instant ban if CCP finds out, which they have before.

you're stupid. At one point in time CCP told us how to modify the video files to play ****/movies/tvshows/music etc in the cq.
No he is not. The fact that CCP endorsed in a very specific case to insert out of game files into the client, does not mean it is endorsed in any other way.
Alteration of the game code, adding to it, etc., etc. in any way, shape or form is indeed a guarantee for a very permanent ban on all your accounts.
Please don't do it.

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#316 - 2013-06-12 14:55:17 UTC
Let the clientmodifing idea alone and...


I found a site with lots of pictures from 2006-2010.
http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-ships-list.php

You should look at the pictures from 2009 and thats, what eve should look once more. (exept the v2 ships, they should stay V3). But the nebulaes and turret modells. And how i dayed many times, I DONT WANT TO REMOVE the new stuff, just adding an option to swich between the old and new stuff. the new stuff is standard setting for new players.

possibile solution for the huge clientsize when adding it: just compress the files to smaller stuff. Like CAT or something else. I dont understand much about software and modding, but i just know, that compressing lots of huge files to one, smaller can solve it. That means, there should be created a new file like OLD STUFF or so, then, the client size gets just increased by 100mb or so.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#317 - 2013-06-29 09:10:28 UTC
T3 in Hi-sec complexes:

This change was not realy needed, because it changed nothing on farming. So, they should be again able to enter these sites

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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marVLs
#318 - 2013-06-29 10:13:31 UTC
Im only for one thing, more nebulasAttention
There should be at least 5x more of them, it's really bad that You travel, make 20j and still same nebula... and i don't think that making them more colorfull is good, look at other space games, they have realistic skyboxes, dark, sometimes with only stars but it looks better than EVE...
Sublime Rage
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#319 - 2013-06-29 12:05:22 UTC
HTFU
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#320 - 2013-07-10 06:52:55 UTC
i keep it up to date

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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