EVE General Discussion

Honestly I doubt they'll change the plans. Everything from UnInv to cap V3 has received "tough, you're getting it this way lol" responses to criticism.

*cough* Anyway. I'm not sure I like this whole "each ship has a specific niche" thing. IMO ships should be able to do more than one thing well, otherwise there's not really much point in being able to fit them differently.





Also for ****'s sake stop calling that ship line "combat". It's a redundant name, especially since you've already got one called "attack". Something like "heavy" would be much better.

Different ships are different, just because they are in the same "line" doesn't mean they have to be identical. I don't see any sloppy ness, ships need to be balanced with intheir class, not against smaller or larger ships. A all drone bonues Vexor or Algos might be over powered because of their small size and speed, where as an all drone domi (relying on sentries) is not.

i very happy about the changes, the new Domi will be an improvement for me as I don't ever use guns on a domi (I use the ship as a swiss army knife with remote reppers and such), and the New 'Phoon will be nicer now for PVE.

fixed to be more boobie focused

As per the quote, these things are somewhat fluid and might be changed. The balancing team is open to feedback. Just don't whine like the oft heard "**** you ccp you hate my beloved (insert race here, usually seems caldari centric pilots love this particular whine) ships". Be specific and suggest alternatives. That way everyone can see how reasoned your position is, or how unreasoned it is.

For instance, asking for a role bonus for your particular ship or race (amarr chauvinists often fall into this flaw) that no other ships in the class will get is not reasonable. Or asking for things that are way outside or contrary to the particular backstory of the race such as speed and mobility to go with already having great ranged damage application and tank (caldari chauvinists love this flaw too). If you are going to ask for a change against history or backstory distribute such across the races using a ship role argument. For instance there is no reason for tanking bonuses on blockade runners, because these ships want speed, agility, and cargo space. Do this so it does not become just another obvious buff my particular ship or race plea, coming from someone with no experience of other races or weapons systems. To do such is to engage in the grass is always greener for those other folks so fertilize my lawn flawed argument that unfortunately we see too much of on these forums.

you say that but they have realized some stupid stuff before and changed it, remember the talos with a 90% web?

Looks at the page counts for the 4 Threads
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=223610&find=unread - Gallente - 37
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=223607&find=unread - Amarr -21
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=223611&find=unread - Minmatar - 9
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=223608&find=unread - Caldari - 8

Seems that there is more to discuss on that Gallente and Amarr BS Balancing that the other 2 races combined :)

If the changes go through as currently proposed the Armageddon will be the preferred close range brawler... and not just for Amarr pilots.

There are strong concerns that it is going to end up very overpowered. I am not the type to look at long range neuts and immediatley start forecasting that the ship will now be immune to being tackled and most kiting ships, but there are plenty of people that feel that way.

Crap, just Crap... If it works Nerf it. This game has become Nerf Online...

I like the idea of having racial specific subsystems such as the strategic cruisers use, but applied to all ships in game.

That way your skills matter in what you fly without having to retrain an entire racial line up just to fly 1 specific hull for maybe a week/month/somewhereinthefuture.

That Bhaalgorn have a good bonus to lasers AND neuts, but only want it to be a neuting beast? Load the neut sub system!

Don't want that Armageddon you love to be changed to fully be dependent on drones? Load that laser subsystem!

Of course, all that would come at a premium, changing a 120m hull into a 500mil ship...

But damned if you don't get the options for staying true to your bloodline.

Hell, offer a negative to non racial so you don't see Abaddons using ecm.

And to the only ships that don't have a faction/T2 variant I believe as well.

Well, having reviewed the posts, I am now certain that the battleships are being changed and that this means the sky is falling and/or Eve is dying.