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Auto-skill updater

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Mahailo Vonnor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-04-08 22:18:41 UTC
Hi guys, been playing the game for a little while, enjoying it.

I'm about to go on a 3-week holiday, where i can't reliably get internet access, and i don't want my skill queue to run 'dry' while I'm gone.
I've got some skills that take 8 days to train, so i'd only need to change it a couple of times, but i will need to update it at those times.

The meat of my question is that i've seen some program floating around on the web, "Mofiki\'s Eve Online Skill Trainer" which purports to allow you to remotely manage your skill queue, being able to add new skills etc.

1: has anyone used this, and if so: did it work?
2: Is this a 'legal' tool to use, and would I get in trouble?

Thanks much,

Sam
darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-04-08 22:31:33 UTC
While I'm no authority on this I don't think it's legal. As far as I know you must not use any programs that interfere with the EVE client.

I would recommend you just queue a skill like Advanced Weapons Upgrades 5 or Drone Interfacing 5.

"The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp."

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2013-04-08 22:32:28 UTC

If it's not ISBOXER or a Logitech G15 gaming keyboard it's usually verboten.

Best way to know for sure is to file a petition and ask, any responses you get here won't be authoritative unless a Dev happens to swing-by your thread, and even then you are better off having a petition on file should the answer be favorable to you.



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-04-08 22:35:49 UTC
That will get you a temp ban. Don't use it OP.
David Estarra
Starside Lost
#5 - 2013-04-08 22:36:48 UTC
My gut feeling after a quick google search is that using that program could get you a ban. Macros in general are not allowed in EVE.

Besides, I really wouldn't be comfortable with putting my login details into a third party program. That sort of thing can lead to account hacking..

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Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
#6 - 2013-04-08 22:37:01 UTC
remote desktop

/thread
David Estarra
Starside Lost
#7 - 2013-04-08 22:38:54 UTC  |  Edited by: David Estarra
Lord Jita wrote:
remote desktop

/thread


Fine in theory, but if he isn't going to have reliable Internet access for logging into EVE, how is he supposed to run a Remote Desktop that uses far more bandwidth?

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ErrorRon
Turbo-Encabulator LLC
#8 - 2013-04-08 22:50:26 UTC
There are plenty of skills that take a lot longer than 21 days to train. Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtItWL6GfSM CCP Gargant -  Dev of my heart.

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2013-04-08 22:54:07 UTC
ErrorRon wrote:
There are plenty of skills that take a lot longer than 21 days to train. Lol



Yeah.....plugin up to Battleship V.

I wouldn't look for this capability any time soon, considering what had to be gone through to even get a Skill Queue implemented in the game (yes, the queue used to not even exist).

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Ai Shun
#10 - 2013-04-08 23:02:59 UTC
Mahailo Vonnor wrote:

I'm about to go on a 3-week holiday, where i can't reliably get internet access, and i don't want my skill queue to run 'dry' while I'm gone.

I've got some skills that take 8 days to train, so i'd only need to change it a couple of times, but i will need to update it at those times.

The meat of my question is that i've seen some program floating around on the web, "Mofiki\'s Eve Online Skill Trainer" which purports to allow you to remotely manage your skill queue, being able to add new skills etc.


I'm guessing that is not within CCP's allowed use policy. It can't be done through the published API so any application that claims to allow you to change skills is doing so in a manner not published by CCP. Which raises the question:

How safe do you think your account details will be in the hands of an online capable application that operates outside of the CCP published API?

I wouldn't take the risk, personally. If you have enough time before your holiday train up one of those 8 day skills (If it's like a level 4) and hope the level 5 will cover your time away. Otherwise, look for one of the guides on how to run EVE off a removable device (Memory stick, etc.) so you can potentially change your skill queue from the hotel internet access / similar?
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-04-08 23:16:57 UTC
Anything that could login to your account and update your skill queue for you while your not there will get you banned if caught.

Best option is to queue up a long skill, some good ones that will apply to most any ship you fly are Drone Interfacing 5, Sentry Drone Interfacing 5 or Heavy Drone Operation 5.





Hannah Flex
#12 - 2013-04-09 00:33:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannah Flex
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2013-04-09 00:48:06 UTC
I'd recommend setting a nice, long skill train. Programs like the one you're asking about generally end poorly for your account. Please keep that in mind.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#14 - 2013-04-09 00:57:42 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
http://eve-search.com/thread/127374-1/author/CCP#1

You might be able to take care of updating skills on dial-up. EVE's not super strict about bandwidth or latency.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#15 - 2013-04-09 01:28:57 UTC
This is why I love EVE. I can go on a 2 month vacation and come back with Titan V ready. Plus all my macros will make sure I don't stop AFK mining in highsec either. Finally, CCP will ban my account and I will not be salve to this game any longer.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#16 - 2013-04-09 02:16:17 UTC
If you're willing to take the risk of banning that goes with using forbidden programs then you may as well just find someone you actually trust with your account info (sibling, girlfriend, etc) instead. Still not officially kosher, mind you, but a lot safer than trusting some anonymous software company.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-04-09 02:20:00 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
then you may as well just find someone you actually trust with your account info (sibling, girlfriend, etc) instead.



This is about the quickest way to get screwed ingame EVER. I've posted in the past about this. This includes bank accounts, etc. Yours is YOURS.

I don't care if you've been married 75 years. Bad idea is bad idea.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#18 - 2013-04-09 03:48:35 UTC
Remote management of skill qeues has been a long standing wish for many, some for very understandable and good reasons (i.e., military deployments). That said, the last thing CCP wants (or needs for that matter) is for anyone to not have to log in at least once and a while. Not to mention, and I'm admitedly no guru on this, I can imagine that would be possibly a bit risky in terms of acount security. I could be way off on that last part, but that's what I've seen many state when asked why CCP won't allow this sort of thing. It's a crapy grey area unfortunately, as it could be very benificial to alot of people but it could be just as detremental as well.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-04-09 05:43:04 UTC
What i do is pause the current skill search for a skill that takes weeks to finish there are plenty, turn it on go on holliday you come back and the long skills is learn. Now perhaps you lose some time but he its always better than 2 days you on your holliday and the skill is finish. But again i call a friend or my mother yes my mother to set a skill on dont care with one. I know it perhaps forbidden but i chance the password afther that so no worries.
Sharon Anne
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#20 - 2013-04-09 05:43:08 UTC
Doing long skills is best on long breaks, otherwise they never seem to get done. Blink
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