Missions & Complexes

Oh I am sure there are plenty of players, saving up to get them a great present soon enough. They probably wont even have to wait for Christmas. :)

Edit: But I do think a 'Darwin Award' would be appropriate under these circumstances.

Hypocrite ? Why?

Extremely comical coming from a guy that got booted from ISN for taking a few million ISK for disrupting fleets, how did that work out going from 125 mil an hour to 60 mil an hour. Your character is about as reliable as the morning tabloid paper if this was a battle you would be the waterboy,

ISN members come from every group in Incursions we take anyone with the right ship and the right fit for us, we don't ban anyone for flying with others and our member retention is 98%. so you might want to ask yourself if ISN lies so much why would almost everybody that comes fly with us stay? For the lies? or for the intolerance? I think it is because we boot tools like you.

I believe DIN has every right to take down every MOM in high sec and get the same treatment that ISN got for taking down the last mom a few weeks ago. I look forward to their member retention after a week of this kid crap.

I especially like the rumours of if ICU or ISN form an HQ fleet they are going to do it again. This is epic, like history making epic,, well actually it isn't since ISN did it once and DIN stopped the 100 man Blobs. Of course DIN stated that they could take ISN 40 v 40, but I guess that was hot air and boasting too.

You go boi and do yo' thang, Saviours of the Incursions community?

I like only black cake !

Sorry Rolstra for the sidetrack.

7'62 SKS like a dog with a bone aren't you. I didn't and won’t respond in the Incursion thread. BTW it’s not recruitment thread, I have sent a mails to everyone that is running a group even Chadarass asking them to subscribe and advise on issues brought up there, (Chadarass responded with only ridicule). I happen to get the post on my phone and try to respond as soon as possible, to help people not to ridicule, that thread was not the place to air your personal laundry.

But let’s have some fun here.

You keep assuming you know what I am reading because you have one chat open, you can't see all my chats, you don't know what is being said, or for that matter any background or history from my point of view, you’re watching fiction and bitching about the facts being off. You probably still angry they got Han Solo out of the Carbonite alive?

I don’t care if you disagree with my decision to not trust someone at his word that his implants made him stable, I make that decision in ISN, and will continue to make those decisions for the benefit of ISN’s pilots. If you want to make those decisions you probably need to step up, take charge, be an adult, take responsibility, for something, anything and you need to do it with your main. I did not make a mistake. I chose to not let him in. I did not block him I muted him as can be seen in my log and anyone else’s log, but is missing in your log, funny how that works.

As you will undoubtedly try to twist this up as well, I consider you to fall under the ‘who cares’ group of trolls. You don’t add anything to a conversation, you accuse, you waste space, and you sidetrack, with your only goal to find any minor thing you perceive as wrong and force an issue where there is none. Attempting to discredit me from behind a mask of anonymity.

Really, who are you?
Are you in charge of anything? other than anonymous posts?
You say you fly with ISN but post under an alias.
You say you know how rotten ISN is but then you also say, you fly with us.
You keep pointing out that ISN is all about the ISK/hr and how that is a bad philosophy, But you say you fly with us. Why?
You don’t like me because? Certainly not a racist, being racist on my comms gets one verbal warning and then they are gone. Banned not muted.
The post you are alluding to concerning racism has been address, and is to the best of my knowledge a done deal, as I have heard no further complaints.
You don’t have my job and I am sure all of ISN is thankful for that.

I am not embarrassed by your empty accusations and I have spoken to the ‘logi’ in question and his brother, I know they weren’t offended and never thought they were banned. Additionally I have 15 to 20 chat rooms open at all times dealing with the constant logistics and needs of this community; I help every person that comes to me with honest and as impartial advice as I can. I am not worried about my credibility, I post with my main and do my best to ensure nobody gets away with hurting my friends and those I trust, and trust me in return. I have in game friends and RL friends that trust my judgement and ask for my advice on a regular basis, I research my responses with appropriate due diligence and feel as confident in my replies as is needed for the substance involved, ‘It’s a game’.

If you don’t trust me, I don’t feel a loss, as you are an anonymous troll looking for a bite.

But you sir have repeatedly posted in DIN supporting forum threads, advocating anything the commandant states with a blind loyalty only acolytes can muster, when you get to the cliff with the rest of the lemmings, don’t look back, nobody will care. As far as your proof: you do not back up anything you say with facts on the ground, just anecdotal evidence doctored to your whim, you sir are a fake, and have no credibility with anyone, a giant in your own mind, and a flea in all other aspects.

Go watch another movie, perhaps the Matrix needs dressing down.

And Zwo. 0/10 Your Kung Fu is more like Yoga

That certainly is a large block of opinion you posted. I will counter with nothing but facts, so that the contrast is that much more striking. This is the "doctored" log you're speaking of. When I originally posted it, I removed bits from people who were speaking in channel but not involved in the actual conversation. Because I abbreviated it, anonymized it, and cleaned up the language you and your cronies have called it "doctored" and "incomplete" implying that it has been altered maliciously in order to paint you in a bad light. Had I just cut/pasted it, you would have run crying to CCP that I was violating forum rules. Well, here's the whole log, with time stamps, from your ISN Public channel. I have abbreviated the names to conform with forum rules, cleaned up the foul language, but left "ISN Officer" and "Prospective Logi Pilot" intact so that it can be easily compared to the abbreviated log I posted previously.

[Fit for T2 fit, T1 rigged Scimitar posted by Prospective Logi Pilot]

[ 2013.04.01 16:02:06 ] D.B. > Vuhdu 4L LFSF
[ 2013.04.01 16:02:11 ] B. > Prospective Logi Pilot we usually dont accept t2 fits (t1 rigs) you should have at least t2 rigs and faction links
[ 2013.04.01 16:02:22 ] C.B. > Scimitar
[ 2013.04.01 16:02:42 ] Prospective Logi Pilot > I've been in HQ fleets here without, but w/e, I'll leave this channel then, got other stuff to put my isk in :)
[ 2013.04.01 16:02:45 ] C.B. > ^^ proper fit ???
[ 2013.04.01 16:03:10 ] T. > C.B. seems legit
[ 2013.04.01 16:03:21 ] M.B. > Scimi lvl Chuck
[ 2013.04.01 16:05:06 ] D.B. > Cora you there?
[ 2013.04.01 16:05:07 ] ISN Officer > Capacitor (Lasts 5m 6s)
[ 2013.04.01 16:05:50 ] T. > ISN Officer what fit you on about?
[ 2013.04.01 16:06:04 ] ISN Officer > take you b_________ somewhere else
[ 2013.04.01 16:06:14 ] ISN Officer > Scimitar
[ 2013.04.01 16:06:36 ] T. > *cough* he did say he had implants *cough*
[ 2013.04.01 16:07:02 ] ISN Officer > Prospective Logi Pilot and this VG Scimi 4 TL
[ 2013.04.01 16:07:34 ] ISN Officer > yeah and I even gavwe him the benifit of doubt and treid it with a +6%
[ 2013.04.01 16:07:41 ] T. > ah k
[ 2013.04.01 16:07:42 ] D.B. > Vuhdu 4L LFSF So this ISN Officer ??
[ 2013.04.01 16:07:56 ] ISN Officer > still no go wont work so for lieing I am booting him permanatly
[ 2013.04.01 16:08:15 ] ISN Officer > that works
[ 2013.04.01 16:08:30 ] ISN Officer > I used that one for awhlie
[ 2013.04.01 16:08:31 ] T. > can i just say, with 2+5's and all lvl 5 it is cap stable =P
[ 2013.04.01 16:08:56 ] T. > but i dont think he will have perfect cap skills, so yeah
[ 2013.04.01 16:09:02 ] ISN Officer > yours or the last one
[ 2013.04.01 16:09:10 ] T. > that T1 rigged one
[ 2013.04.01 16:09:19 ] D.B. > Goldiee. Is mine ok?
[ 2013.04.01 16:09:25 ] E.M. > *latches to ISN Officer's leg and looks around*
[ 2013.04.01 16:09:42 ] ISN Officer > yeah not really important, rule No 1 never lie about a fit
[ 2013.04.01 16:09:46 ] ISN Officer > hang on let me look

So, would you care to point out where I attempted to "doctor" the log unfairly? Would anyone else who was in the channel that day care to contradict anything about this log?

Once you give up your blatantly false accusation re: "doctoring" the log, and trying to discredit and marginalize me, do you have any explanation for your inconsistent statements? In ISN Public, you said he was being "booted", permanently, for "lieing" about his fit. But what really happened to Prospect Logi Pilot that day? Depends on when you're answering that question:

• On 4/1, when it happened, you told everyone you were "booting him permanatly" (SIC).
• Three hours later, in the forums, that changed to, "I set the ban for 12 hours, but I will remedy that now."
• Three hours after THAT it's not even a ban anymore, nor is it "perma". "Actually I lifted the MUTE, and I had no intention of perma banning him."
• Almost a week later, ban and boot have changed to "blocked", and he was not subject to any of the B words. "I did not block him I muted him as can be seen in my log and anyone else’s log, but is missing in your log, funny how that works."

The next inconsistency is about WHY he was being banned/blocked/booted/muted permanently/temporarily/not at all (depending on day). Let's just call it "punished". On 4/1 the log shows that he posted a fit, saying it was cap stable with implants, (which turns out to be true, despite your protests and fail Eve-HQ/EFT skills). You couldn't make it cap stable in your fitting tool, and so you punished him "for lieing" about his fit. You re-emphasize this, stating, "...rule No 1 never lie about a fit" and that he needs to "Take [his b_______] somewhere else." Later your story changes to focus on his claim of implants being unverifiable. "I don’t care if you disagree with my decision to not trust someone at his word that his implants made him stable..." But in the logs, you don't say that. You say the opposite, claiming that you "even gavwe him the benifit of doubt and treid it with a +6%" (SIC). It's obvious that you forgot there were two implants that could help make it fit, which is why you only "treid it with a +6%" (SIC) instead of with two +4s or +5s. "T." even tries to save you from the mistake you were obviously making, but you blew him off.

So, please show everyone how the evil, deluded, unimportant, anonymous, fake, flea of a man doctored the logs and slandered you. That should be easily doable by posting the "undoctored" version, right? I dare you. Or are you short on facts, and long on ad hominem?

And there you have it.

It's actually even worse, that's a well-known DIN pilot's alt who monitors ISN's channel along with Goldiiee's posts day and night and tries to come up with these straw man-arguments of why ISN is evul.

( for those unfamiliar with the straw man fallacy: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html is actually a quick and interesting read)

Like dealing with an ex-wife, just can't let go of anything.

Oh you found me out, I must be a Republican. (apologies to my republican friends)

You need something? A pat on the back? An atta-boy? You attempt to distract from any topic I post in regardless of content. You do not bring anything relevant to the conversations. Your only goal seems to be discredit me for a decision I was well within my right to make, how you interpret it is of no consequence to anyone but yourself. Yes; I make mistakes. Yes; I typed Ban when I meant mute. Yes; I attempt to help players regardless of whether their interest are for, or against my interests.

I only see you propagating the agenda of one community with the constant irrational screams for the heads of others. Your bored and lonely, I see that. Your also not helping anyone as far as I can see, especially not yourself. Or, you are only helping yourself. But from behind the anonymity, as far as I can see, no one knows and no one cares.

The only people that respond to you are me, and my friends trying to defend me. I don't need defended but I appreciate their support. Trolls will troll, and at least it gives me something to do late at night when sleep eludes me.