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Ge Hucel-Ge
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2013-04-03 07:36:34 UTC
how are legions compared to all the shiny armor bs?

they don't show the big dps numbers in eft, but shouldn't they apply their damage much better to the smaller targets in vanguards?
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#122 - 2013-04-03 07:52:21 UTC
Ge Hucel-Ge wrote:
how are legions compared to all the shiny armor bs?

they don't show the big dps numbers in eft, but shouldn't they apply their damage much better to the smaller targets in vanguards?

Legions are absolutely fantastic at doing two of the three VG sites, I believe TDF is still fielding Legions to great effect in this manner. I also have seen several Leigon shield fleets still running as recently as yesterday, but unfortunately I don’t know what group they were running with or if it was a multiboxer .

But I am confident the TDF will have a spot for your legion just join their channel and they can get you sorted.
Channel ‘The Ditanian Fleet’

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Miles Forrester
Eire Engineers
Pandemic Horde
#123 - 2013-04-04 19:21:21 UTC
Some vanguard groups missing from the list:
Union 0f Revolution Incursions (channel: U.o.R Inca)
State War Academy Incursions (channel: SWA Incursions)
Hunter's Brotherhood (channel: Hunter's Brotherhood)
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#124 - 2013-04-04 20:23:56 UTC
Miles Forrester wrote:
Some vanguard groups missing from the list:
Union 0f Revolution Incursions (channel: U.o.R Inca)
State War Academy Incursions (channel: SWA Incursions)
Hunter's Brotherhood (channel: Hunter's Brotherhood)

added them to the OP thanks for the preformatted information Big smile

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Hvitr Ulfr
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#125 - 2013-04-04 22:56:47 UTC
First of all, thanks for making and maintaining thread, it is very informative.

Secondly, I have a question you can hopefully answer. Would I be able to find fleets wanting to take me in a T3 BC, even if it's just running Vanguards? Specifically, I have a T2 tanked, meta 4 gunned blaster Naga which I would be interested in getting into incursions with while I work my way up to a Rokh.

Low slots:
3 x Magnetic Field Stabilizers II

Medium slots:
1 x Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
2 x Large Shield Extender II
1 x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1 x EM Ward Field II
1 x Thermic Dissipation Field II

High slots:
8 x Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I: Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L

Rigs:
1 x Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
2 x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Is getting into incursions fleets with this realistic, or would I just be wasting my time trying until I get into a Rokh?
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#126 - 2013-04-05 04:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Hvitr Ulfr wrote:
First of all, thanks for making and maintaining thread, it is very informative.

Secondly, I have a question you can hopefully answer. Would I be able to find fleets wanting to take me in a T3 BC, even if it's just running Vanguards? Specifically, I have a T2 tanked, meta 4 gunned blaster Naga which I would be interested in getting into incursions with while I work my way up to a Rokh.

I personally haven’t seen a Naga in a fleet in a long time, but a properly tanked (resists over 70%) Naga should survive without too much difficulty. That being said, ‘The Valhalla Project’ is a very inclusive community; they take pretty much everything and somehow manage to make it work. I would send a mail to DaisyCutter (TVP head honcho) to check, but the easy way to find out is join their channel and ask directly. Expect some trolling it’s sort of an initiation thing ;) kinda like a Frat or Sorority.

Also it looks like you are only a few hours away from a meta-4 gun Rokh, and I know those get used. And of course the eventual Vindicator (though very squishy for shields) are welcome in pretty much any fleet.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Hvitr Ulfr
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#127 - 2013-04-05 06:24:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Hvitr Ulfr
Thanks for the quick response. I'm glad to hear I have a shot and I'll be checking the TVP out.

The Naga makes a lot more sense for me right now since I have BC lvl 4, but not Caldari Cruiser lvl 4 or Caldari Battleship. Plus I'm still space poor from buying and fitting the Naga and the Rokh hull is three times as expensive as the Naga hull, plus rigs, insurance, and any mods I need in addition to what I can take off the Naga. I'm hoping running incursions can help me make enough to purchase a Rokh eventually, but right now it's not really feasible any time soon.
Dianila Artemisa
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#128 - 2013-04-05 10:57:54 UTC
Just a quick suggestion: split the communities in the first post in shields and armor and then in training, training/advanced and advanced. It might make looking for communities a bit easier ;)
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#129 - 2013-04-05 11:22:20 UTC
Dianila Artemisa wrote:
Just a quick suggestion: split the communities in the first post in shields and armor and then in training, training/advanced and advanced. It might make looking for communities a bit easier ;)

Great suggestion thanks. Be sure to let me know if I got something wrong. Big smile

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Dianila Artemisa
Macabre Votum
Northern Coalition.
#130 - 2013-04-05 14:15:16 UTC
SWA Incursions and U.o.R Inca are both training groups and are working together.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#131 - 2013-04-05 16:18:58 UTC
Dianila Artemisa wrote:
SWA Incursions and U.o.R Inca are both training groups and are working together.

corrected in OP

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Roshisama
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#132 - 2013-04-08 12:10:31 UTC
Hi there,

first of all: thank you for this nice summary. unfortunately i´m still about 50 days away from large T2-Guns (mostly missile char so far) but at least the shield skills are quite ok. would it be possible to find a vanguard-fleet running a tengu like the following?

[Tengu, Incursion]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith A-Type Explosive Deflection Field
EM Ward Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

with my current skills this would run at 16,4k shield-hp (raw) with resists of 80,5/86/85,6/85,9. dps out of pyfa with scourge fury 558 @ 57 km.
i could switch to HAMs for 744 DPS with scourge rage @ 20 km.

any improvements etc are welcome. the big goal atm is to fly a nightmare, though a rokh with t2 rails is a lot closer.

thanks

Roshi
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#133 - 2013-04-08 14:26:06 UTC
Roshi: I am sorry I am useless at Tengu fits, :( I know TVP takes Tengu's, also the UoR/SWA combo (they use UoRs channel) takes pretty much any DPS ship as well, hop in their public channels and I am sure they can get you squared away and flying in short order.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#134 - 2013-04-08 14:33:59 UTC
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#135 - 2013-04-08 15:35:38 UTC
Ge Hucel-Ge wrote:
how are legions compared to all the shiny armor bs?

they don't show the big dps numbers in eft, but shouldn't they apply their damage much better to the smaller targets in vanguards?


Well fit shield legions get fleet too, so I would assume that they would get fleet in armor communities, especially as drone bunny, for the ability to alpha Niarja spawns in TCRCs if nothing else.

Also, the Warp To Me Public Channel is Warp To Me Incursions. If you are doing the community classification, WTM is a relaxed shield community that runs all levels of sites. Thank you in advance for the (assumed) prompt update.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#136 - 2013-04-08 15:50:35 UTC
James Baboli wrote:
Also, the Warp To Me Public Channel is Warp To Me Incursions. If you are doing the community classification, WTM is a relaxed shield community that runs all levels of sites. Thank you in advance for the (assumed) prompt update.

I thought that was a typo in the mail. Smile Corrected in OP thanks for the Edits.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#137 - 2013-04-08 16:01:45 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:

I thought that was a typo in the mail. Smile Corrected in OP thanks for the Edits.

And thank you for prompt maintenance of your OP, OP. Smile

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-04-08 16:53:02 UTC
Hi

Starting from this point : http://eveboard.com/pilot/Frostys_Virpio I know it's all oer the place...

Is there some kind of path that could be remotely fast to at least get a feel of what incursion are like? I understand that missile a sub optimal so it would probably mean crossing to gun but i'm allright with that.
Kharn Gorechild
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#139 - 2013-04-08 17:47:01 UTC
[17:03:17] Goldiiee > well find the turrets you closest to completing, and then get the BS skill. and we can get you in fleets to (pay for) and fill out the fit with the appropriate modules


Regular guy came into a channel, asked a few simple questions, got the good information he was looking for, and was given great advice on alternatives until he was ready. He said thank you, and went on his merry way. Wasn't said to me, but the fact that people are still willing to help each other out in this game is really cool.

+1 to you Goldiiee for taking the time to support the new(er) guys/gals
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#140 - 2013-04-08 18:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: James Baboli
Roshisama wrote:
Hi there,
[Tengu, Incursion]

*fit trimmed*
with my current skills this would run at 16,4k shield-hp (raw) with resists of 80,5/86/85,6/85,9. dps out of pyfa with scourge fury 558 @ 57 km.
i could switch to HAMs for 744 DPS with scourge rage @ 20 km.

any improvements etc are welcome. the big goal atm is to fly a nightmare, though a rokh with t2 rails is a lot closer.

thanks

Roshi


Definitely got the tank for it. I would suggest switching out for HAMs and dropping the LSE for a Target painter or web if you're looking for a vanguard fleet as they contain few cruiser+ ships and many frigates that close to between 8 and 15 km.

Also blaster rokhs are very nasty in VG fleets as they have the utility mids to be pocket vindis without quite so much squish.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp