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[GMVA] The Situation in the Intaki System
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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-04-08 11:05:07 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
by removing the solar system from CEWPA it should permanently change sovereignty to Caldari State.

No.

Diana Kim wrote:
Disregarding of current occupation, this system belongs to Ishukone.

Wrong.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-04-08 11:06:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Anja Suorsa
You do yourself a (further) disservice Kim-haani. Intaki belongs to the Intaki, Ishukone merely hold development rights. The two are nothing alike.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-04-08 11:46:01 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
You do yourself a (further) diservice Kim-haani. Intaki belongs to the Intaki, Ishukone merely hold development rights. The two are nothing alike.


So glad I didn't have to repeat myself. Thank you.

~Malcolm Khross
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-04-08 11:49:19 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
You do yourself a (further) diservice Kim-haani. Intaki belongs to the Intaki, Ishukone merely hold development rights. The two are nothing alike.

I do neither service nor diservice to myself. I serve the State.
Ishukone did invest resources into Intaki development, and I have to protect assets of the State, even if Ishukone neglects them. These resources belong to our nation. If Ishukone doesn't need them, we still do, and the State could use them for military effort.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-04-08 11:51:22 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
These resources belong to our nation.

No they don't.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#26 - 2013-04-08 12:49:25 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Removing Intaki from the CEWPA is totally interesting idea, and I fully support it, but on one condition: by removing the solar system from CEWPA it should permanently change sovereignty to Caldari State.

Disregarding of current occupation, this system belongs to Ishukone.



The Intaki people are not of the State. The Intaki system is the property of the Intaki people

If you're claiming that it should be given to the Ishukone corporation due to the recent occupation of the space surrounding it and the illegal auction of the planetary bodies in the system to State corporations, then you are also claiming, by exactly the same merit, that all of Luminaire should be controlled by the Federation.

Your hypocrisy is showing again kim.
Do the cluster a favour and biomass yourself.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#27 - 2013-04-08 12:57:40 UTC
Quote:

Do the cluster a favour and biomass yourself.


You know, as much as one can disagree with Kim-haani, but empty statements like these just show your utter impotence when all you do is talk.
Come to think of it, this is a rather fitting thread for such a display.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#28 - 2013-04-08 13:07:28 UTC
Empty?
It is a statement born of both irritation and sincere hope.
not that I expect that she will listen.

To question your own statement though, do you expect me to find Kim while she is out of her capsule, kill her there, and then find and erase any stored clone data she has?
Joining the FDU and fighting her in space would not cause my requested result. She is a capsuleer.
The cluster would be a better place without warmongers and hypocrites like Kim in it. Therefore my words were both logical and correct.

I don't condone the use of terrorists to remove the clones of my enemies. So i have to appeal to their own sense of honour, even if it is almost impossible to reach.

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#29 - 2013-04-08 13:16:15 UTC
Impotent, like I said.
Just continue to lament about the impossible and hone your skills with sharp words. Maybe they'll sting sometime.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#30 - 2013-04-08 13:35:23 UTC
You know... you should probably leave the talking to Malcolm Khross and Pieter Tuulinen, they are far more capable.
That is part of how your meritocracy works, right... those who are best at a task are the ones who should perform that task?

As for 'impossible', while unlikely, it is not impossible that Kim would decide to biomass.
What is impossible is to permanently kill her in space.

I'm sure that you understand at least that much, don't you?

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-04-08 13:47:55 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:
You know... you should probably leave the talking to Malcolm Khross and Pieter Tuulinen, they are far more capable.
That is part of how your meritocracy works, right... those who are best at a task are the ones who should perform that task


While I appreciate your sentiment; Kyiokkinen-haani is no less capable of communicating her thoughts clearly than myself or Tuulinen-haan.

She is less interested in being diplomatic and possessing a silver tongue than either of us, however.

~Malcolm Khross
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#32 - 2013-04-08 13:54:14 UTC
If I may notice, there's a rather entertaining fallacy in most people's ideas about removing Intaki from the CEWPA, which is both sides being sure this will somehow benefit them;

Caldari hope that by doing this the system will come under control of Ishukone; Gallente think that by doing this they'll be able to put their reins around the Intaki people without any outside interference or consequences.

I'd advise the Intaki people to think outside of the box either of this sides are trying to force onto you and form a third solution that is beneficial to your own good.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-04-08 13:55:35 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
She is less interested...


That made me smile.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-04-08 13:56:31 UTC
As usual, Leo shows his complete ignorance of the situation in inimitable style.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-04-08 14:01:14 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:

Caldari hope that by doing this the system will come under control of Ishukone; Gallente think that by doing this they'll be able to put their reins around the Intaki people without any outside interference or consequences.


Caine,

There is only one Caldari in this thread who has even suggested that Intaki is or should be under the "control" of Ishukone.

~Malcolm Khross
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#36 - 2013-04-08 14:05:47 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:

I'm sure that you understand at least that much, don't you?


I understand your empty words perfectly. And you're right, it is next to impossible to get rid of a capsuleer in space. It is, however, possible to shut people up if you slap them hard enough.
And this is the reason why I respect Kim-haani more than, for example, you. Because she is actually capable of - and much more importantly - willing to back up her words.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#37 - 2013-04-08 14:15:53 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Anja Suorsa wrote:
You do yourself a (further) diservice Kim-haani. Intaki belongs to the Intaki, Ishukone merely hold development rights. The two are nothing alike.

I do neither service nor diservice to myself. I serve the State.
Ishukone did invest resources into Intaki development, and I have to protect assets of the State, even if Ishukone neglects them. These resources belong to our nation. If Ishukone doesn't need them, we still do, and the State could use them for military effort.


The Federation invested 200 years of resources into Caldari Prime's development.

Hypocrite.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-04-08 15:02:30 UTC
The funny thing is, Heth invalidated the results of the Blind Auction anyway, so under Caldari law Ishukone has no claim to the Intaki system whatsoever. However, under Federal law, Ishukone are the rightful holders of the system's shipping and security franchise alongside Mordu's Legion.

If Ms. Kim wants to defend the assets of the Ishukone corporation, she should be fighting to keep it in Federation hands.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#39 - 2013-04-08 15:13:12 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
iyammarrok wrote:
You know... you should probably leave the talking to Malcolm Khross and Pieter Tuulinen, they are far more capable.
That is part of how your meritocracy works, right... those who are best at a task are the ones who should perform that task


While I appreciate your sentiment; Kyiokkinen-haani is no less capable of communicating her thoughts clearly than myself or Tuulinen-haan.

She is less interested in being diplomatic and possessing a silver tongue than either of us, however.


True. Although apparently the thoughts she's capable of contributing to discussions here at the Summit are limited to a litany of personal insults. How very common.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#40 - 2013-04-08 15:19:56 UTC
It's my duty to call people out on their shortcomings.
You're also welcome.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.