EVE General Discussion

We seem to be mixing ideas here. I'm discussing legitimate game mechanics re: accountability. This includes suicide ganking, Awoxing, those bad things. That "accountability" ends at the login screen, when I choose to log in an alternate toon. In other words, the in-game, legitimate, allowed by the ToS/EULA activities of one of my characters has no effect on my others, unless I choose otherwise. EVE has always been that way.

Of course, ToS/EULA breaking activities can, and do have impact on the person themselves behind the keyboard. You are confusing the character(s) you play in EVE with yourself as a person.

I really highly doubt CCP will implement some sort of "security status/bounty" system on the person behind the keyboard.

And, as an addendum, think about the consequences of what you ask for. If CCP did place such an idea in game, forget about logging in an alt to do something when wardecced/targeted.

Since the two have nothing to do with each other, no.

…in other words, he had to manage his risk, and having a bounty adds to that risk. If there was no risk in it, he wouldn't have to jump through all those hoops.

He's likelier to be attacked if he flies something expensive. Again: just because you can manage a risk doesn't mean it doesn't exist (because then there wouldn't be anything to manage to begin with).

So what? That just means you can hunt him down again and get paid again. Free, reoccurring money — that's your incentive — and the more you do it, the less able he is to keep doing it again.

I don't like the bounty system because everyone and their dog has a bounty now.

Kind of ruins the "argh im a pirate fear me" feel that the massive "WANTED" plastered on your name used to give.

I mean even I amassed a bounty even though I had a 5.1 sec status at the time.

20% of estimated loss is not enough to make a big impact, except in the case of blowing up an exhumer or similar ship that has a big bounty on it.

Should be 40-50%.

You can sneeze and get a bounty. Bump into a roid and get a bounty. Moon Jita and even the AFK marketeers would stop Minecraft long enough to add to the bounty.

It's pointless.

Then what would we need medical clones for?

No. End of Story. Stop posting.

Yes, wrong lol.. Not being able to understand what is written is so sad, you are just so wrong!! And REALLY like so many using these forums.. you have NOTHING to add, why even bother replying.

NB; Break it down over thousands and the payouts are even lower. As stated it was the average for the top 10.. So maybe you need to learn to read things as they are written not how you want them to read.



OR, the bounty payout was worth it but that would become exploitable

There it becomes professional bounty hunting. The player who wants to place a bounty gives the player name etc to a bounty hunter agent, who then lists them for offer to bounty hunters, the bounty hunter accepts the contract and only then is the target of the bounty notified. Still exploitable but less so than just increasing the payout.

Problem is, most hapless gank victims put unrealistic activation costs on the killright, they are using it to try and recoup some of the loss they incurred. Seeing a killright go up with a 200mil activation cost, when the target is in a destroyer (gankers play things) is not going to get many takers as killing a destroyer for the bounty/killright is going to net you about 2 mil isk, a loss of 198mil. Not very profitable.. Having a realistic set price for the activation of killrights might go a way towards fixing that issue. Maybe add the killright activation cost to the payout. So you would receive, the bounty + the killright cost.
Doing the math on whether a bounty is worth claiming, quite simple in empire space. You are the aggressor so you have Concord intervention, loss of security status, ship and possibly pod . unless the target is flying a shiny you can kill before concord kills you.. you lose isk.

Ok, bad wording on my part. I was looking at the fact, gankers get paid to kill miners with a bounty, is making ganking profitable really the aim of the bounty system?

***Yup. Otherwise, he wouldn't have to manage that risk and could fly around in whatever he wanted.

Said ganker is a free kill — the bounty is all profit — and he is now limited to only ever flying single-digit-million ships. He is already at an elevated risk, and flying something more racks it up even further.***
Not exactly a free kill. You will yourself lose security status and your ship (possibly pod too) and will eventually also be limited to flying "single-digit-million ships.

Killing a -5 in empire.. Ok you found a -5 in empire space, he is flying a rookie ship to pick up some new skill books not available where he chooses to live. Sweet got the kill and the bounty payout for it was?? Answer; Not worth the effort.