Intergalactic Summit

My statement was specifically applicable to individual pilots. If a [GMVA] Member Corporation were to disregard this policy, that would be an entirely different issue. Such has not been the case, or under discussion.



Again, you are taking your analysis rather beyond what my statements have covered. I'm just saying that some of our pilots check the IGS about as often as they bother reading their mail. They show up for combat operations when our Fleet Commanders round them up from the bars or pry them from the arms of their favorite exotic dancers.



I can respect this perspective on Alliance level leadership, but to be blunt that just isn't how [GMVA] is run or will ever be run. We have practically as many member Corporations as Pyre Falcon has pilots, for one thing. An organization with hundreds of active pilots needs different leadership than an organization with roughly a dozen. All due respect to Captain Khross, and the stand that he has made, but [-WTR-] is an organization under his Sole Proprietorship. If the only [GMVA] pilots who supported this were the ones who've posted in this thread that'd be triple the pilots recognizing our initiative as compared to his.



If our differing cultural expectations weren't difficult for each other to comfortably assess our societies would hardly be in the position that we find ourselves in. It isn't the case that because this moratorium might not be universally adhered to by every individual pilot in our Alliance that the Alliance is making no effort to enforce its limitations. Our methods are simply not the ones you seem to expect. For one thing, punitive action taken against pilots that either through ignorance or desire to help their comrades in arms participate in operations not sanctioned under this moratorium is something that I would find utterly distasteful. I can respect their reasons for doing so, and just because I know that the majority of my peers feel as I do does not mean I feel those who dissent should simply fall in line or be punished. I hope that through mutual and respectful discourse I can bring them around to my point of view.

Much as I hope for relations between our two peoples to progress, actually.

It seems you understood what you wanted to, not the point I was making. You've also conveniently left out context for those logs that would inform my interpretation of the statements. Either you missed that context originally, or you are willfully misrepresenting it now.

Pieter and I were discussing ongoing [GMVA] sorties into Enaluri, and our justification for continuing those operations. As I said then, it is seen by [GMVA] to be of strategic benefit to tie down Caldari forces in defending their military assets. We draw a distinction between offensive operations against the Caldari Military, and operations seeking to control Caldari Territory.



I made clear from the beginning, and will repeat myself again here: We will conduct operations in Caldari space against State Military Installations and Outposts. We will not take "Enaluri, then Akidagi" or any other Caldari systems. Such moves will not be justified by "new threats to our empire that must be captured to keep our people safe."

Apparently its no wonder I'm repeating myself so often. I recognize and respond to your concerns respectfully, but all you're willing to do is recycle your own talking points.



Thank you for sharing your perspective and allowing me to clarify.

You know what, Vero?

I will play the fool this once and accept that perhaps I am reading more into your declaration than is actually there and I will take it on faith that your alliance will do its best to enforce its directives without breaching its operational standards and principles.

It is quite possible I am judging you too harshly so I will withdraw and watch, truth is revealed to the observant.

I wouldn't count on Soter being able to lead to anything, much less peace.

Trust must be earned Msr. Marellus.

It wasn't' but a few weeks ago Msr. Soter was only advocating peace after the Gallente Federation had the upper hand and Caldari Prime was firmly in the Federations hands and up until the Battle of Caldari Prime his palms were firmly pounding the war drum. In earnest, I don't see how anyone is in position to postulate the Caldari militias willingness for peace when Villore Accords leadership is refusing to enforce their proposition on their individual pilots yet expecting the Caldari to take their word that they mean good will.

Personal opinion and good will is irrelevant in this situation. Words must be backed up with action. Or in this case, inaction.

With all do respect to Ms. Vero and her stride towards peace and understanding between our two races and nations, her organizations stance makes it hard to trust, and this is merely from an outside perspective. Imagine yourself on the other end of the deal, being told you should show your support if you wish for peace but at the same time being informed that individual action will not be punished if their pilots so chose to ignore their organizations stated policy.

You are of cource correct Msr. Marellus. It doesn't require trust, it requires respect. Unfortunately there seems to be an void in that between most bitter enemies, and again, its hard to take a foes word especially given the terms laid out. It would do the proposition a great service if the Villore Accords was speaking on behalf of its corporations and members at large and assuring that the deal would be followed through and violations would be punished.

Its hard to take them seriously when they refuse to punish individual members of their organization, and hard to blame the other side from being doubtful due to it.

Perhaps what is needed is a gesture of faith that overreaches the rather milquetoast offer here. This should be thought upon.

With the current military crisis abated and the Caldari Militia threat contained, I felt it necessary to respond with a complete explanation of the timeline of events and our response to them.

Rinai Vero, an authorized public relations representative on behalf of the Moira. Corporation and the Villore Accords as a whole, made a transmission to the IGS regarding an unprecedented initiative, to cease territorial conquest on both sides and maintain a constant demarkation line. This would benefit planetary populations and interstellar trade, and normalize relations.

Unfortunately, because of the nature of the faction militias, it is impossible to control or police this initiative within the Federal Militia. Likewise, the Caldari State Protectorate response ranged from tepid, to suspicious and hostile.

At minimum, the only positive response was the Pyre initiative. Unfortunately, as a far as reciprocations go, their initiative encompassed a minimal number of Caldari militia personnel. We were in the process of asking for the participation of large Caldari and Gallente alliances when information crossed our wires about the Enaluri military buildup.

This buildup was not some minor affair, there were clear swelling of capsuleers active inside the system, and with the Gorgon Empire, a sovereignty-owning entity, entering on the Caldari side of the war, working with Bloody Ronin Syndicate directly, a catastrophic shift in the war was about to occur.

As a bit of background, the Caldari/Gallente militia warzone is a careful balance of power, with very small differences in fleet strength on a day to day basis, and often times, equal exchanges of system control and combat victories. A massive influx of pilots to one side or the other, is a major escalation. That they would be haphazardly thrown to the frontline would seem to be an attempt at a surprise attack.

An attack launched just as we announced the halt focusing on system captures.

So, you can see, there was an unfortunate turn of events that was outside our control in this case. We have no interest in trying to maintain occupancy of vast swathes of Caldari low security systems. But this one system, next to our main bases of operations, became a focal point with the potential of a massive Caldari counter-attack. We could not let that happen and the defeats of previous months repeated.

We took action and announced it publicly on the IGS. We received criticism for this announcement. Perhaps I didn't fully explain the situation, perhaps the people wouldn't have accepted the explanation regardless.

The end result is, the Enaluri system has changed hands and the Caldari militia organizations inside the system have either been disbanded or redeployed.

We did what we needed to do to protect Federation citizens and systems from another "reconquista" of the area. Any such success on the Caldari State's part would strength Tibus Heth's position and jeapardize nascent peace-making initiatives between the State and Federation.

I hope this explanation helps, and let me know if you have any further questions.

Sincerely,

Julianus Soter

What a load of vagary and spin.

Every one of us who has been touched by this 'Moratorium' is a bit more embarrassed for it.

Put the whole damn affair behind yourselves before this thread sticks around for long enough to burn the worth of GMVA's word into our minds.